Calculate the vertical motion of a piece of debris from an explosion

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The discussion revolves around calculating the vertical motion of a piece of debris launched from an explosion, specifically focusing on determining its maximum altitude using different potential energy expressions.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive expressions for maximum altitude using both gravitational potential energy and the universal law of gravitation. They express uncertainty about the second approach involving U = -GMm/r.

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Participants are exploring the relationships between kinetic and potential energy at different points in the motion. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to find the difference in potential energy at launch and at the peak altitude, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach to the second part of the problem.

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There is mention of the original poster missing a lecture, which may affect their understanding of the concepts involved. Additionally, the discussion includes assumptions about the potential energy at different points in the motion.

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There was a huge explosion, one small piece of debris was launched upward at v=5.3 km/s. Calculate its maximum altitude.

a) Develop an expression for the maximum altitude assuming the change in potential energy = mgh
b) derive an algebraic expression for the maximum altitude using U= -GMm/r.

For a) I set 1/2mv^2 = mgh, therefore
h= v^2/(2g)

I’m not exactly sure how to work with b.
I wasn’t there for this lecture. This is what I’m assuming and I’m most likely understanding this incorrectly. -GMm/r would be equal to the change in potential energy I guess? Which would be 0- 1/2mv^ = -1/2mv^2? I set that equal to -GMm/r? I’m not completely sure.
 
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You have a U0 (potental energy at launch point), then a Ufinal (potential energy at the peak. You need to find the difference between those.
 
scottdave said:
You have a U0 (potental energy at launch point), then a Ufinal (potential energy at the peak. You need to find the difference between those.

From what I’m understanding :

Etotal 1= E total2

1/2mv^2 - GMm/r (potential energy assuming it is on the surface when it explodes)

= 0- GMm/r+h where h is its altitude above the surface of the Earth ?
 
starstruck_ said:
From what I’m understanding :

Etotal 1= E total2

1/2mv^2 - GMm/r (potential energy assuming it is on the surface when it explodes)

= 0- GMm/r+h where h is its altitude above the surface of the Earth ?
If you mean 0- GMm/(r+h), yes.
 
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