Calculate the work done by a force

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The problem involves calculating the work done by a force as it moves along a rectangular path defined by specific coordinates. The force is given as a function of position, and the path is traversed clockwise starting from the origin.

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  • Participants discuss the integral formulation for work, questioning the correct application of the force and path differentials. There is uncertainty about the need for specific factors in the integral and the nature of the force being conservative.

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Participants are actively exploring the problem, with some providing corrections and suggestions regarding the path differentials. There is ongoing clarification about the limits of integration and the implications of the force's direction on the work calculation.

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Some participants note the potential for the force to be conservative, while others express confusion about the implications of the x^2 term in the work calculation. The discussion reflects a lack of consensus on the correct approach and the nature of the force involved.

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I am asked to calculate the work done by a force as it moves around a path. The force is F = b(1-x^2/a^2)j. The path is a rectangle with coordinates at (0,0); (0,L); (a,L); (a,0). The force moves clockwise around the path beginning at the origin. A diagram is attached.

I know work is the integral of F dot dr.
So for the first path I should have the the force F=b(1-x^2/a^2)j dotted with Lj (the path from the origin to point (0,L)). The integral is thus bL (1 - x^2/a^2) dy with limits from y=0 to y=L. Is this the right approach? If not, can someone please point me in the right direction??
 

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You have an extra factor of L that you don't need (look at the units). The work is the integral of \vec{F}\cdot d\vec{r} along the path. For example, the first segment has d\vec{r} = dy \hat{j}. You have to figure out what d\vec{r} is for each of the four segments.
 
So, for the first segment, dr = dyj. For the second segment, dr = dx i.
For the third segment, dr = -dyj. For the fourth segment, dr = -dx i. Is this correct? Are the limits on my integration correct as well?

Also, should the answer be 0 (closed path, conservative force...not sure if the force is conservative though)?
 
If the answer is zero then the force is conservative, but not all forces are conservative so you can't use that as a check here. (Your dr vectors are correct).

-Dale
 
I get an answer of 2bL (1- x^2/a^2). This does not seem correct to me, since it contains an x^2 term? Is this right? Is there a substitution I can make for x? x=a or x=L, for instance? This problem is driving me crazy...any help greatly appreciated!
 
You can eliminate two of the legs from your problem since the force is in the \hat{j} direction.

In segment 1, x=0. In segment 3, x=a.
 
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Yes...I have the forces for the dx direction to be zero. I'm still doing something wrong though?
 
Did you substitute in the values for x that I just edited into my last post?
 

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