Calculate Vector Integral $\vec{V_2}$

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of a vector integral, specifically $\vec{V_2}$, involving multiple components and integration over the interval from 0 to 3. Participants are examining their approaches to evaluating the integral and addressing potential errors in their calculations.

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  • Some participants present their formulations of the vector integral $\vec{V_2}$, breaking it down into component integrals.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about their calculations, noting discrepancies between their results and an expected answer.
  • Another participant identifies specific errors in the integration process, suggesting that the first and third integrals were not correctly evaluated due to improper subtraction of limits.
  • There are comments regarding formatting issues in the forum, specifically the automatic capitalization of the vector notation.
  • A later post introduces a different integral unrelated to the main topic, questioning its correctness.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct evaluation of the vector integral, with multiple competing views and approaches presented. Some participants acknowledge errors in their calculations, while others continue to explore the topic without resolution.

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Participants express uncertainty about specific steps in their calculations, including the treatment of limits and the integration process. There are also formatting issues raised that may affect clarity in communication.

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\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\vec{V_2}
&=\int_0^3 \left[\left(
\frac{4}{\sqrt{1+t}}\right){I}-\left(7t^2 \right){j}
+\left(\frac{14t}{\left(1+t^2 \right)^2}\right){k}\right] dt \\
&=\left[\int_0^3
\frac{4}{\sqrt{1+t}}
dt \right] {I}
-\left[\int_0^3 7t^2 dt\right] {j}
+\left[
\int_0^3\frac{14t}{\left(1+t^2 \right)^2}\, dt
\right]{k}
\end{align*}

Just seeing if going in the right direction
 
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Re: 13.2.2 vector integral

karush said:
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\vec{V_2}
&=\int_0^3 \left[\left(
\frac{4}{\sqrt{1+t}}\right){I}-\left(7t^2 \right){j}
+\left(\frac{14t}{\left(1+t^2 \right)^2}\right){k}\right] dt \\
&=\left[\int_0^3
\frac{4}{\sqrt{1+t}}
dt \right] {I}
-\left[\int_0^3 7t^2 dt\right] {j}
+\left[
\int_0^3\frac{14t}{\left(1+t^2 \right)^2}\, dt
\right]{k}
\end{align*}

Just seeing if going in the right direction

What is the actual question you are trying to solve?
 
Re: 13.2.2 vector integral

\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\vec{V_2}
&=\int_0^3 \left[\left(
\frac{4}{\sqrt{1+t}}\right){I}-\left(7t^2 \right){j}
+\left(\frac{14t}{\left(1+t^2 \right)^2}\right){k}\right] dt \\
&=\left[\int_0^3
\frac{4}{\sqrt{1+t}}dt \right] {I}
-\left[\int_0^3 7t^2 dt\right] {j}
+\left[\int_0^3\frac{14t}{\left(1+t^2 \right)^2}\, dt \right]{k}\\
&=8\sqrt{t+1}\Biggr|_0^3i-14t\Biggr|_0^3j-\dfrac{7}{t^2+1} \Biggr|_0^3k\\
&=16i-52j-\frac{7}{10}k
\end{align*}

ok I made ? somewhere because the answer is supposed to be
$$8i-63j+\frac{63}{10}k$$
 
Re: 13.2.2 vector integral

karush said:
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\vec{V_2}
&=\int_0^3 \left[\left(
\frac{4}{\sqrt{1+t}}\right){I}-\left(7t^2 \right){j}
+\left(\frac{14t}{\left(1+t^2 \right)^2}\right){k}\right] dt \\
&=\left[\int_0^3
\frac{4}{\sqrt{1+t}}dt \right] {I}
-\left[\int_0^3 7t^2 dt\right] {j}
+\left[\int_0^3\frac{14t}{\left(1+t^2 \right)^2}\, dt \right]{k}\\
&=8\sqrt{t+1}\Biggr|_0^3i-14t\Biggr|_0^3j-\dfrac{7}{t^2+1} \Biggr|_0^3k\\
&=16i-52j-\frac{7}{10}k
\end{align*}

ok I made ? somewhere because the answer is supposed to be
$$8i-63j+\frac{63}{10}k$$
First integral: [math]8 ~ \sqrt{ t + 1}[/math] over the limits is [math]8\sqrt{4} - 8 \sqrt{1}[/math]. You didn't subtract the last term.

Second integral: You didn't integrate, you took a derivative!

Third integral: You did the same thing as the first. Remember to subtract!

-Dan
 
Re: 13.2.2 vector integral

Don't you just hate that the editor automatically changes you "i" to "I"?
(I had to go back and correct that first "i".)
 
Re: 13.2.2 vector integral

HallsofIvy said:
Don't you just hate that the editor automatically changes you "i" to "I"?
(I had to go back and correct that first "i".)

i don't get any auto-capping of a single i in my posts...
 
Re: 13.2.2 vector integral

$\textsf{Evaluate the Integral:}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\vec{V_2}
&=\int_0^3 \left[\left[
\frac{4}{\sqrt{1+t}}\right]\textbf{i}-\left[7t^2 \right]\textbf{j}
+\left[\frac{14t}{\left[1+t^2 \right]^2}\right]\textbf{k}\right] dt \\
&=\left[\int_0^3
\frac{4}{\sqrt{1+t}}dt \right] \textbf{i}
-7\left[\int_0^3 t^2 dt\right] \textbf{j}
+14\left[\int_0^3\frac{t}{\left[1+t^2 \right]^2}\, dt \right]\textbf{k}\\
&=8[\sqrt{t+1}]
\Biggr|_0^3\textbf{i}
-7\left[\frac{t^3}{3}\right]
\Biggr|_0^3\textbf{j}
-14\left[\frac{1}{2\left[t^2+1\right]}\right]
\Biggr|_0^3\textbf{k}\\
&=[16-8]\textbf{i}-[7][9]\textbf{j}+7\left[\frac{9}{10}\right]\textbf{k}\\
&=8\textbf{i}-63\textbf{j}+\frac{63}{10}\textbf{k}
\end{align*}

OK hosed off the errors
hopefully
 
Re: 13.2.2 vector integral

MarkFL said:
i don't get any auto-capping of a single i in my posts...
why isn't "\vec{}" on the select menu.

or was the vector crowd considered outcasts?
 
Re: 13.2.2 vector integral

karush said:
why isn't "\vec{}" on the select menu.

or was the vector crowd considered outcasts?

Under the "Geometry" section you can find the vector choices:

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Re: 13.2.2 vector integral

$\displaystyle \int\sqrt{4x^2+1}\ dx$
$u=2x\therefore\frac{1}{2}du=dx $
$a=1$
$\displaystyle \frac{1}{2} \int\sqrt{u^2+a^2}\ du$
$\displaystyle\frac{1}{2}\left[\frac{u}{2}\sqrt{u^2+a^2} +
\frac{a^2}{2}\ln\left| u+\sqrt{u^2+a^2}\right| \right]$
then back plug $u$ and $a$

sorry thot this was a new post
but is this correct?
 

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