Calculate X-Component of Electric Field at Origin | Integral Homework Help

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The problem involves calculating the x-component of the electric field at the origin due to a charge distribution along three-quarters of a circle. The charge density is given as λ, and the radius of the circle is R. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the integration process and the relationship between charge density and the differential charge element dq.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to use Coulomb's law for integration but questions the substitution of dq with λR. They also explore the relationship between dq and the length element ds, expressing confusion over why dq should not be λ multiplied by the entire circumference.

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Participants are actively discussing the setup of the problem, with some clarifying the cancellation of components in different quadrants. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct expression for dq and the relationship between ds and the angle θ, indicating a productive exchange of ideas without a clear consensus yet.

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The discussion involves assumptions about the geometry of the charge distribution and the integration limits, as well as the interpretation of charge density in relation to the arc length of the circle. There is a noted confusion regarding the integration limits and the proper expression for dq based on the charge density.

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In the picture given to me, 3/4 of a circle is drawn around the origin. Basically every quadrant but the first. The radius is R and the charge density is λ. It says, find the x-component of the electric field on a point charge at the origin.

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I integrate coulomb's law so I get
∫kdq/r^2cos(Θ) where Θ goes from pi/2 to pi, because the bottom two quadrants cancel each other out

Now, the solutions given say to do
dq = λR

why do I replace dq with λR ?? I'm very confused about what I'm doing

if q = λ2piR
shouldn't dq= λ ds where ds goes from 0 to 2piR, so why the heck does that give me the wrong answer, why is it just dq = λR, I don't understand why the charge density can just be multiplied by the radius, what does that give you? Shouldn't it be multiplied by the actual length of that bit, as in λ2piR or however much of the circumfrence is being used?
 
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because the bottom two quadrants cancel each other out

Wouldn't it be rather the second and fourth quadrants who cancel each other out?
 
Err... well I think if I was looking at both x and y components then yes, but as I'm only finding the x component of the E field it doesn't really matter, either of the quadrants on the left can cancel out the one on the right, but you're right, the y's of the fourth are canceled by the y's of the secnod
 
yeahhyeahyeah said:
Now, the solutions given say to do
dq = λR
Well, that's not quite right. Almost, but not completely right.

why do I replace dq with λR ?? I'm very confused about what I'm doing

if q = λ2piR
shouldn't dq= λ ds

dq= λ ds is correct.
Now, can you related "ds" to R and something to do with the angle θ? Drawing a figure with ds would probably help with this.

where ds goes from 0 to 2piR, so why the heck does that give me the wrong answer, why is it just dq = λR, I don't understand why the charge density can just be multiplied by the radius, what does that give you? Shouldn't it be multiplied by the actual length of that bit, as in λ2piR or however much of the circumfrence is being used?

Yes, λ should be multiplied by the length of the bit, "ds". See my hint/question above.
 

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