Semi-circle linear charge Electric Field

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The problem involves a semi-circle of radius R with a uniformly distributed charge Q, leading to a line charge density λ. The objective is to determine the electric field at the origin due to this charge distribution.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the symmetry of the problem and the direction of the electric field. They explore the calculation of the electric field due to a differential charge element and raise questions about the correct expression for linear charge density. There is also a focus on the implications of the radius in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct formulation of the linear charge density and its implications for the electric field calculation. There is ongoing clarification regarding the dimensions and relationships between variables, with multiple interpretations being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of a visual aid that could clarify the setup of the semi-circle, as well as the need to consider the specific radius in their calculations. There is also mention of potential confusion stemming from different representations of the radius in various resources.

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Homework Statement



A semi-circle of radius R has a charge Q uniformly distributed over its length, which provides a line charge density λ. Determine E at the origin.

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The Attempt at a Solution



https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/105239

I can tell by argument of symmetry that the Electric field will be pointing in +y direction.

If we take a sliver of the charge, call it dq, we will calculate the Electric field.

E = \left(\frac{1}{4πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{dq}{R^2}\right)sin(θ)

Also: \left(\frac{dq}{dθ}\right) = \left(\frac{Q}{π}\right)

so: dq = \left(\frac{Qdθ}{π}\right)

Now:

E = \left(\frac{1}{4πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{Qsin(θ)}{πR^2}\right)dθ

After calculating the integral from θ = 0 to θ = π I get the following answer:E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{Q}{πR^2}\right)\hat{y}

Does this work appear to be correct? I want to make sure I get this easy material down before I go to the more difficult material in electromagnetism. If so, is it fair to say that the linear charge density typically symbolized as λ is equal to Q/π in this problem. Q is the charge in coulombs and pi is the length of the semicircle. So I could represent my answer as:

E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{λ}{R^2}\right)\hat{y}
 
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RJLiberator said:
https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/105239/
I cannot open the file.
RJLiberator said:
Does this work appear to be correct?
Regardless of the missing picture, your final answer is correct.
RJLiberator said:
is it fair to say that the linear charge density typically symbolized as λ is equal to Q/π in this problem.
No, that cannot be a linear charge density since its dimension is the same as that of the charge. Note that the circumference of a semicircle must contain its radius.
 
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RJLiberator said:

Homework Statement



A semi-circle of radius R has a charge Q uniformly distributed over its length, which provides a line charge density λ. Determine E at the origin.

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/105239

I can tell by argument of symmetry that the Electric field will be pointing in +y direction.

If we take a sliver of the charge, call it dq, we will calculate the Electric field.

E = \left(\frac{1}{4πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{dq}{R^2}\right)sin(θ)

Also: \left(\frac{dq}{dθ}\right) = \left(\frac{Q}{π}\right)

so: dq = \left(\frac{Qdθ}{π}\right)

Now:

E = \left(\frac{1}{4πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{Qsin(θ)}{πR^2}\right)dθ

After calculating the integral from θ = 0 to θ = π I get the following answer:E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{Q}{πR^2}\right)\hat{y}

Does this work appear to be correct? I want to make sure I get this easy material down before I go to the more difficult material in electromagnetism. If so, is it fair to say that the linear charge density typically symbolized as λ is equal to Q/π in this problem. Q is the charge in coulombs and pi is the length of the semicircle. So I could represent my answer as:

E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{λ}{R^2}\right)\hat{y}
The radius is not 1, is it?

The charge is spread over the semicircle. What is 1/2 the circumference of a circle of radius, R ?

Also, missing from the problem statement is the location and orientation of the semi-circle. (I could not access the image.)
 
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Hey guys,

Sorry about the image not showing -- it was an accidental double post.

I see your point on the radius. I watched a video on this problem and did not take into consideration that the radius of that video = 1, while my radius = R. So the Linear charge density would be Q/(pi*R), is this now correct?

Due to this fact, I will have to change my answer slightly to:

E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{Q}{πR^3}\right)\hat{y}
 
RJLiberator said:
So the Linear charge density would be Q/(pi*R), is this now correct?
It's now correct.
RJLiberator said:
Due to this fact, I will have to change my answer slightly to:

E=(12πε0)(QπR3)^yE=(12πε0)(QπR3)y^​
Why would there be an extra ##R##? Your previous answer (2nd equation from the last in post#1) is already correct.
 
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If linear charge density
λ = \left(\frac{Q}{πR}\right)

Then the final answer :

E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{Q}{πR^2}\right)\hat{y}

which is:
E = \left(\frac{1}{2πε_0}\right)\left(\frac{λ}{R}\right)\hat{y}

Thank you for the help.
 

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