Calculating Acceleration for Circular Motion

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of a particle moving in circular motion, starting from rest and having a specified tangential acceleration. The problem involves determining the total acceleration after a given time.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between tangential and normal acceleration in circular motion. There are attempts to calculate the tangential speed using kinematics, and questions arise regarding the relevance of uniform circular motion equations.

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Some participants provide calculations for tangential and normal acceleration, while others express uncertainty about the methods used. There is acknowledgment of improved understanding, but no consensus on alternative methods to achieve the same results.

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Participants discuss the definitions and calculations related to tangential acceleration and its dependence on kinematic principles, questioning whether other approaches exist.

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Homework Statement


A particle starts from rest at t=0s.
It moves along a circular path of radius 18m and has an acceleration component along its path of 6.7m/s^2.
What is the magnitude of the acceleration when t=2s

Homework Equations


\begin{array}{l}<br /> \left| a \right| = \sqrt {a_n ^2 + a_t ^2 } \\ <br /> a_n = \frac{{v^2 }}{p} \\ <br /> v = \frac{{2\pi r}}{T} \\ <br /> \end{array}

The Attempt at a Solution


The particle is acting in circular motion, hence:
v = \frac{{2\pi r}}{T} = \frac{{2\pi \left( {18} \right)}}{2} = 18\pi \;ms^{ - 1}

The normal component of acceleration is then given by:
a_n = \frac{{v^2 }}{p} = \frac{{\left( {18\pi } \right)^2 }}{{18}} = \frac{{18^2 .\pi ^2 }}{{18}} = 18\pi ^2 \;ms^{ - 2}

Then I can find the magnitude of the total acceleration:
\left| a \right| = \sqrt {a_n ^2 + a_t ^2 } = \sqrt {\left[ {18\pi ^2 } \right]^2 + 6.7^2 } \approx 178ms^{ - 2}

Look OK? My first response would be that the figure seems quite high...
 
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steven10137 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


The particle is acting in circular motion, hence:
v = \frac{{2\pi r}}{T} = \frac{{2\pi \left( {18} \right)}}{2} = 18\pi \;ms^{ - 1}
That's an equation for uniform circular motion where T is the period of the motion. Not relevant here.

Instead, use kinematics to calculate the tangential speed of the particle at the end of 2 seconds.
 
OK thanks, I thought this might have been where I went wrong.

How about?

\begin{array}{l}<br /> a_t = \frac{{dv}}{{dt}} \Rightarrow dv = a_t .dt \\ <br /> \int {dv} = \int {a_t .dt} \Rightarrow v = \int\limits_0^2 {a_t .dt} = \int\limits_0^2 {6.7.dt} = \left[ {6.7t} \right]_0^2 = 13.4\,ms^{ - 1} \\ <br /> a_n = \frac{{v^2 }}{r} = \frac{{13.4^2 }}{{18}} = 9.98\;ms^{ - 2} \\ <br /> \left| a \right| = \sqrt {a_t ^2 + a_n ^2 } = \sqrt {6.7^2 + 9.98^2 } = 12.0167\;ms^{ - 2} \\ <br /> \end{array}

Cheers.
 
Much better. :approve:
 
ok thanks :)

Just to confirm my understanding of this, the tangential acceleration is defined as the rate of change of velocity, in the 't' direction, yeah?
There is no other way to calculate this than to use kinematics?
 
steven10137 said:
Just to confirm my understanding of this, the tangential acceleration is defined as the rate of change of velocity, in the 't' direction, yeah?
Right.
There is no other way to calculate this than to use kinematics?
Not sure what you mean.
 
Well I was just curious as to whether or not there was another way to get the same result.
 
steven10137 said:
Well I was just curious as to whether or not there was another way to get the same result.
Not that I can see.
 

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