Calculating Active Effect & Effect Factor for Alternating Current

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the active effect and effect factor for an inductor connected to an alternating current (AC) grid. Participants explore the implications of given parameters such as resistance, inductance, peak current, voltage, and frequency, while addressing discrepancies in expected results.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving an inductor with specified resistance and inductance, seeking to calculate the effect factor and active effect based on given parameters.
  • Another participant expresses confusion regarding the peak current value of 2 A in relation to the 230 V RMS source, suggesting that the load would draw more current than indicated.
  • A participant questions the source of the 60 W active effect value mentioned in the problem, proposing that the load would likely consume significantly more power.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the relevance of the voltage in the context of the circuit fragment, suggesting alternative approaches to calculate power without directly involving voltage.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the expected active effect, with some supporting the book's value of 60 W while others argue that the actual power consumption would be higher. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correct active effect value.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the relationship between peak current and RMS voltage, as well as the implications of frequency on the calculations. There are also indications of language barriers affecting the clarity of the problem statement.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and practitioners interested in AC circuit analysis, particularly those dealing with inductive loads and power calculations.

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Homework Statement


An inductor has a resistance of 30 Ohm and an inductance of 0,1 H. A current with the peak value of 2 A runs through. Calculate the effect factor and the active effect if it connects to a grid with 230V and a frequency of 50 Hz.

My book says that the effect factor is 0,69 which I also get, but I can't get the active effect to 60 W. Thereby I believe that I am doing something wrong with the apparent effect (S).

R (Resistance) = 30 Ohm
L (Inductance) = 0,1 H
ipeak (Current peak) = 2 A
U (Voltage) = 230 V
f (Freq.) = 50 Hz

2. The attempt at a solution
f = 50 Hz ⇒ ω = 2π*f = 100π rad/s
RL = ω*L = 100π*0,1 = 10π Ohm

φ = arctan(XL/R) ≈ 46,3 degrees
Effect factor = cos(φ) ≈ 0,69

S = U*I
I = ipeak/sqrt(2)
⇒ S = (U*ipeak)/sqrt(2) ≈ 325,27 VA

Active effect = P = S*cos(φ) ≈ 224 W


 

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Hi 9robban6, Welcome to Physics Forums.

I'm a bit confused by the specification of a peak current of 2 A and a grid connection of 230 V. The load described would carry more current than 2 A peak if connected to a 230 V RMS source at 50 Hz.

Also, where are you getting the 60 W "active effect" value? I figure that the described load would sink in excess of 800 W both real and reactive, combining for an apparent power in excess of 1200 VA or so (I won't give exact values here).

Your power factor ("effective value"?) calculation looks good at 0.69 .
 
Sorry for bad description, it's originally written in Swedish. I try again.

Through an inductor (with the resistance of 30 Ohm and inductance of 0,1 H) runs a current with the peak value of 2 A. Calculate the effect factor and the real power if it is connected to the electricity grid. (Which here in Sweden is 230 V 50 Hz).

Maybe it shouldn't be 50 Hz? I don't know. But I know that U = 230 V.

The task is in my book and the book says that the answer to the task is:
Effect factor = 0.69
Real power = P = 60W
 
Okay, it seems that the important points to take from the problem statement are the current value, the frequency of supply (50 Hz), and the component values. The voltage of the grid is irrelevant since you're given the current through just the circuit fragment consisting of an inductance and a resistance:
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Use a different expression for the power (one that doesn't involve the voltage), or first calculate the voltage across the relevant component due to the current it's passing.
 
I think that will solve it! http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img29/6853/xn4n.gif
 
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