Calculating Angular Momentum: Uniform Rod and Point Mass Collision

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The discussion focuses on calculating the final velocity of the center of mass (Vf) of a uniform rod after a collision with a point mass. The uniform rod has a mass of 4.4 kg and a length of 0.827 m, while the point mass is 0.808 kg, striking the rod at a speed of 6.39 m/s. The collision occurs at a distance of 0.12 m below the center of mass of the rod. The key takeaway is that the angular momentum of the colliding object must be calculated before determining the center of mass velocity, emphasizing the importance of conservation principles in collision scenarios.

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  • Understanding of angular momentum and its conservation
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Homework Statement


A uniform rod (M 4.4 kg, L 0.827 m) starts at rest on a frictionless table. A point mass = 0.808 kg hits the rod at a right angle at speed 6.39 m/s. The block strikes the rod at a distance of 0.12 m below the center of mass, and stops. Assume the block does not stick to the rod. Find:

1. vf, the speed of the center of mass of the rod after the collision.

2. Find the energy lost?

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


Vf of the cm...
i got omega by finding the linear momentum imparted upon the rod by the force of the colliding object and dividing it by the moment of inertia of the rod rotationg about the center of mass...
but now for the V of the cm... if the rod were just rotating it would be zero but the table is frictionless so there is translational motion...
so i used the formula... .5Mblock*Vblock^2=.5Mrod*Vrod^2 + .5iomega^2
and Vrod came out to be wrong...

is there a flaw in my reasoning...? thank you
 
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avenkat0 said:
Vf of the cm...
i got omega by finding the linear momentum imparted upon the rod by the force of the colliding object and dividing it by the moment of inertia of the rod rotationg about the center of mass...

You go wrong right at the first step. if you insist on calculating omega first, you didn't calculate the angular momentum of the colliding object before the collision.

Fortunately for you the question doesn't ask for omega, but only for the cm velocity. That's easy to calculate: use conservation of...(not energy!)
 

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