Calculating Angular Velocity and Kinetic Energy in a Rotating System

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a student on a rotating stool holding two masses, exploring the relationship between angular velocity and kinetic energy as the student changes the distance of the masses from the axis of rotation. The context includes calculating the new angular velocity after pulling the weights in and determining the increase in kinetic energy.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the moment of inertia for the masses at different distances and question the applicability of the formulas for angular momentum and kinetic energy. There are attempts to clarify the role of the moment of inertia and its constancy throughout the process.

Discussion Status

Some participants have successfully calculated the moment of inertia for the masses at different distances and have made progress on part of the problem. Guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between moment of inertia and angular motion, but there remains uncertainty about the overall approach to calculating kinetic energy.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of information regarding the mass of the stool and the student, which some participants note as a potential barrier to fully solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


A student sits on a rotating stool holding two 2 kg masses. When his arms are extended horizontally, the masses are 0.78 m from the axis of rotation, and he rotates with an angular velocity of 1.7 rad/sec. The student then pulls the weights horizontally to a shorter distance 0.25 m from the rotation axis and his angular velocity increases to omega2. For simplicity, assume the student himself plus the stool he sits on have constant combined momentum of inertia I(subscript s) = 1.8kg*m^2. Find the new angular velocity omega2 of the student after he has pulled in the weights. Answer in units of rad/s.

When the student pulls the weights in, he performs mechanical work - which increases the kinetic energy of the rotating system. Calculate the increase in the kinetic energy. Answer in units of J.


Homework Equations


I1*Omega1=I2*Omega2
KE=1/2*m*v^2+1/2*I*omega^2


The Attempt at a Solution


I'm not sure of I*omega is the right formula, because it seems the moment of inertia stays constant throughout. So I'm stuck.
 
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BARBARlAN said:
I'm not sure of I*omega is the right formula, because it seems the moment of inertia stays constant throughout. So I'm stuck.

What's the moment of inertia of a 2kg mass at a radius of 0.78 m from the axis of rotation?
How about when it is at 0.25 m?
 
1.2168 kg*m^2 at .78m, .125 kg*m^2 at .25m. How does this help though when I don't know the mass of the stool or the person?
 
ok i got part 1 right. any tips on how to do part 2?
 
BARBARlAN said:
1.2168 kg*m^2 at .78m, .125 kg*m^2 at .25m. How does this help though when I don't know the mass of the stool or the person?

You're given their moment of inertia. For angular motion this plays the same roll as mass.

Try to determine the rotational kinetic energy for the first situation: weights held at 0.78m and rotation rate 1.7 rad/sec. Show your work!
 
ok I got it right! Thank you all very much :)
 

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