Calculating Area of Ellipsoid: Surfaces of Revolution

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The discussion revolves around calculating the surface area of an ellipsoid formed by rotating an ellipse defined by the equation (\frac{x}{2})^2 + y^2 = 1 about the x-axis. Participants are exploring the mathematical processes involved in deriving the surface area using calculus.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the surface area by first solving for y and then finding its derivative. They express concern over the complexity of the resulting integral and question whether their approach is correct.
  • Some participants share a formula for integrating the square root of a difference, but express uncertainty about its applicability given their current coursework.
  • Others suggest that there may have been algebraic errors in the original poster's simplifications and offer hints for re-evaluating the problem.
  • One participant proposes a substitution method to simplify the integral, indicating a potential path forward while acknowledging the need for limits in the context of surface area calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively sharing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of inquiry are being explored, including algebraic verification and substitution techniques.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that they have not been taught certain integration techniques, which may affect their confidence in applying them. There is also mention of potential algebraic mistakes that could influence the results.

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Consider the ellipse:

[tex](\frac{x}{2})^2 + y^2 = 1[/tex]


We rotate this ellipse about the x-axis to form a surface known as ellipsoid. Determine the area of this surface.

Start off by solving for y.

[tex]y = \sqrt{1-\frac{x^2}{4}}[/tex]

Then find the derivative.

[tex]y' = \frac{-x}{2\sqrt{4-x^2}}[/tex]

Then plug into the formula for surface of revolution.

[tex]S = \int 2\pi y \sqrt{1+(\frac{dy}{dx})^2} dx[/tex]

[tex]2 \pi \int \sqrt{1-\frac{x^2}{4}} \sqrt{1+(\frac{-x}{2\sqrt{4-x^2}})^2} dx[/tex]


Plenty of simplifications later yields

[tex]\frac{\pi}{2} \int \sqrt{16-3x^2} dx[/tex]

Now I haven't found that anti-derivative yet but just looking at it tells you its going to be extremely ugly. But all I remember my professor showing us in class was beautiful little problems that come out to [tex]\int 4x dx[/tex] or something simple like that. So that makes me think I'm wrong.

Any help?
 
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Well I found a formula for it but I am not really sure how to show the working for it. But here is the formula

[tex]\int \sqrt{a^2-x^2} dx =\frac{1}{2}(x\sqrt{a^2-x^2}+a^2sin^{-1}(\frac{x}{a}))+ c[/tex]
 
rock.freak667 said:
Well I found a formula for it but I am not really sure how to show the working for it. But here is the formula

[tex]\int \sqrt{a^2-x^2} dx =\frac{1}{2}(x\sqrt{a^2-x^2}+a^2sin^{-1}(\frac{x}{a}))+ c[/tex]

I trust you that it works but we haven't been taught to use that formula yet, so I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have us use it.

I'm thinking I got something wrong in getting from the initial plug into the end simplification.

Thanks tho =P
 
AH seems that I should actually work out the problems more...when I did it...the end result was less complicated than what you had...you did some wrong algebra in there
 
rock.freak667 said:
AH seems that I should actually work out the problems more...when I did it...the end result was less complicated than what you had...you did some wrong algebra in there

Hrmm...any hints? Been through it a few times and all I have changed is a positive to a negative and a negative to a positive. Haven't found anything to make it easier.
 
Well it seems i made a mistake..twice...i keep getting what you initially had..the only help i can suggest is

[tex]\frac{\pi}{x}\int \sqrt{16-(\sqrt{3}x)^2} dx[/tex]

Let [tex](\sqrt{3})x=4sin\theta[/tex] and work from there...but since it is a surface area of revolution I would expect some limits so then it would be easy from here
 
So after playing with it and using that substitution I get to
[tex]8\pi + \frac{4\pi(sin^-^1(3/2)-sin^-^1(-3/2))}{3}[/tex]

Can't help but think I got something wrong in there.
 

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