Calculating Average Net Force of 810-kg Car

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average net force acting on an 810-kg car that accelerates from rest to 27 m/s over a distance of 120 m. Participants explore the application of kinematic equations and the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration.

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  • Participants attempt to use kinematic equations to find time and acceleration but question the validity of their initial calculations. Some express confusion about the application of formulas and the relationships between variables. Others suggest different methods to derive the average force.

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Several participants have provided alternative approaches to the problem, including the use of kinetic energy and work-energy principles. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of equations, with no clear consensus reached on the final answer.

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Participants note the importance of not mixing units and the potential for misunderstanding the relationships between distance, time, and acceleration in the context of the problem.

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An 810-kg car accelerates from rest to 27m/s in a distance of 120m. What is the magnitude of the average net force acting on the car?

120m / 27m/s= 4.4 s

F=ma
=810kg * 4.4s
= 3600 N

This is not one of my choices. What did I do wrong?
 
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brncsfns5621 said:
An 810-kg car accelerates from rest to 27m/s in a distance of 120m. What is the magnitude of the average net force acting on the car?

120m / 27m/s= 4.4 s

F=ma
=810kg * 4.4s
= 3600 N

This is not one of my choices. What did I do wrong?

You can not apply t = s / v, because the car is accelerating. The velocity of the car is given with 27 = a * t. The second equation is the displacement of the car, 120 = 1/2*a*t^2. Now, plug in the first equation into the second one, and get the time and acceleration. Then you can calculate the average force acting on the car.
 
So, using your equations I get:

120m = 1/2 (27m/s)^2
120m = 1/2 (729m^2/s^2)
120m = 364m^2/s^2
rearrange--> s^2 = 364m^2/120m
s^2 = 3.03m

This isn't right...
 
Anyone have any info on this?
 
brncsfns5621 said:
Anyone have any info on this?

You have two equations:

(1)... 27 = a*t
(2)... 120 = 1/2*a*t^2

From (1) you obtain a = 27/t. Putting that into (2) gives t = 8.89 seconds, which implies (from (1) ) a = 3.04 m/s^2. Hence, F = m*a implies F = 810 * 3.04 = 2462.4 [N]. Do not mix units with variables. You do not have tu put units (such as m/s, for example) into your equations. In other words, you wrote
brncsfns5621 said:
...s^2 = 3.03m

This isn't right...
which reads: 'Seconds squared equals 3.03 meters.' Does not make any sense, right?
 
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WOW! I brain farted that one. For some reason I was thinking to replace the "a*t" with 27. Don't know why... Thank you for your help, I really appreciate it.
 
solve the problem

a = ?
a = v/t
solve t using d=.5(v-V)t
t= 8.8sec

sub in the equation
a = (27m/s)/8.8sec
a = 3.06m/s^2

F= mass*acceleration
810kg*3.06m/s^2 = 2485N = 2500N
 
KE = 1/2 * m v^2
KE = (1/2) (810) (27^2)
W= deltaKE
W = (1/2) (810) (27^2)
W = force * distance
(1/2)(810)(27^2) = 120*F
F= [(1/2)(810)(27^2)] / (120)
F= 2460.375 N
 

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