Calculating Balloon Range and Altitude

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This discussion focuses on calculating the range and altitude of a hypothetical vacuum airship using specific physics principles. Key quantities provided include a displaced volume of 15 m³, a mass of 13.5 kg, and a net upward force of 44.0 N, resulting in an upward acceleration of 3.26 m/s². The participant recognizes the necessity of incorporating changes in pressure and density with altitude to determine maximum altitude, which occurs when the buoyant force equals the weight of the airship. The conversation also highlights the importance of material properties, such as the expansion of latex in conventional weather balloons, affecting maximum altitude.

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  • Understanding of buoyancy principles and forces
  • Knowledge of pressure and density variations with altitude
  • Familiarity with basic physics equations related to motion
  • Concept of maximum altitude in buoyant systems
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This discussion is beneficial for physics students, aerospace engineers, and hobbyists interested in buoyancy, airship design, and the principles governing altitude and range calculations in atmospheric conditions.

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I feel kinda stupid asking this, since I have a bachelor's degree in physics. But, here it goes: I'm doing a thought experiment on my own (i.e., not a homework problem) for a hypothetical vacuum airship. I've determined the following quantities:

V_displaced = 15 m^3
m = 13.5 kg
F_net = F_buoyancy - Weight = 44.0 N upwards
a = 3.26 m/s^2 upwards
I'm assuming that winds are calm (i.e. v_wind = 0), and I've not factored in how pressure and density change over altitude.

Again, I feel like a dunderhead for asking this, but using these quantities, how can I calculate range and altitude? All the equations I know involve the use of initial velocity, but the only forces acting on the airship are gravity and the buoyant force.
 
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Okay, I thought about it some more, and I realized: I will need to factor in the change of pressure and density, because the maximum altitude is when the buoyant force is equal to the weight. Duh. Now I'm off to figure that out.
 
Are you still working on this? Remember that for a conventional "weather balloon", the material is latex which will allow the lifting gas to expand and expand until the balloon bursts. If you have a determined enevelope which won't expand over a predetermined volume, that's going to be your max altitude...I think...
 

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