Calculating Batteries to Power a PC - A Curious Question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using AA batteries to power a personal computer (PC) with a 750W power supply unit (PSU). Participants explore calculations related to power consumption, battery capacity, and the implications of using batteries for such a purpose.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how many AA batteries would be needed to power a 750W PSU for an hour, expressing uncertainty about the units of measurement for power.
  • Another participant explains that one Watt is equivalent to one Joule per second and discusses the capacity of AA batteries, suggesting that a typical AA battery can deliver around 2400 mAh at 1.5 Volts.
  • The same participant calculates that to achieve 750W at 120V, approximately 480 AA batteries would be required, with a theoretical runtime of about 2 hours and 20 minutes under ideal conditions.
  • There is a note that a PC does not continuously consume 750W, as this is a peak value, and the actual consumption may be lower.
  • Another participant clarifies the relationship between voltage and wattage, stating that 1 Watt is not equal to 12V, but rather 1 Watt is defined as 1 Volt times 1 Ampere.
  • There is a correction regarding the power output of a single AA battery when powering a 100 mA LED, which would be 0.15 Watts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the calculations and assumptions regarding battery capacity and power consumption. There is no consensus on the practicality of using AA batteries to power a PC, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about battery performance, such as temperature and internal resistance, which may affect the actual runtime and efficiency of the batteries. The calculations depend on ideal conditions that may not hold in practice.

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So 8 AA batteries is 1 Watt, I was just wondering how many batteries it would taje to power my PC for an hour, so if I have a 750W PSU you would do 8x750 to work out the amount of batteries, but is this per minute, second or hour?

This is just interest, not actually going to do it!
 
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Hello Dougie, welcome to PF :smile: !

I would have guessed one AA battery would already be capable of delivering one Watt, but never mind.

The calculations go as follows: Delivering one Ampere of current at a voltage of 1 Volt over the load is one Watt of power.
One Watt of power is one Joule of energy per second. So for Watts given you never have to wonder whether that is per hour or per fortnight: it is one Joule per second.

To answer you rhetorical question, you would need to know for how long your battery can hold up this one Watt. Usually the makers don't tell you on the package. For rechargeable batteries you often find the capacity expressed in mAh -- milliAmps times hours. I have some that say 2500 mAh, meaning that they can deliver 1 Ampere for a period of 2.5 hours (when fully charged and in good condition, at reasonable temperature, etcetera etcetera. I wouldn't bet on it too heavily...). Or one half amp for 5 hours. 2.5 Amp for one hour is asking an awful lot (they heat up internally, a waste of ... yes, energy).

Suppose an AA battery can deliver 2400 mAh at 1.5 Volt. With 80 AA batteries you would get 120 Volt. 750 Watt at 120 Volt means about 6.25 Ampere. So with six sets in parallel of these sets of 80 AA batteries, each set would have to cough up 1.04 Ampere. Still with me ? Each and every one of these 480 batteries can claim (in theory) to be able to keep up this 1.04 Ampere for a time of around 2.4 Ampere hour / 1.04 Ampere = 2 hours and 20 minutes.

Pretty expensive experiment ! In reality you'll be a lot better off, because on average your PC doesn't gobble up these 750 Watts at all. It is boasting 750 W peak but it would be a room heater if it did that continuously.

How about that for a verbose answer to a simple rhetorical question !

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Hello Dougie, welcome to PF :smile: !

I would have guessed one AA battery would already be capable of delivering one Watt, but never mind.

The calculations go as follows: Delivering one Ampere of current at a voltage of 1 Volt over the load is one Watt of power.
One Watt of power is one Joule of energy per second. So for Watts given you never have to wonder whether that is per hour or per fortnight: it is one Joule per second.

To answer you rhetorical question, you would need to know for how long your battery can hold up this one Watt. Usually the makers don't tell you on the package. For rechargeable batteries you often find the capacity expressed in mAh -- milliAmps times hours. I have some that say 2500 mAh, meaning that they can deliver 1 Ampere for a period of 2.5 hours (when fully charged and in good condition, at reasonable temperature, etcetera etcetera. I wouldn't bet on it too heavily...). Or one half amp for 5 hours. 2.5 Amp for one hour is asking an awful lot (they heat up internally, a waste of ... yes, energy).

Suppose an AA battery can deliver 2400 mAh at 1.5 Volt. With 80 AA batteries you would get 120 Volt. 750 Watt at 120 Volt means about 6.25 Ampere. So with six sets in parallel of these sets of 80 AA batteries, each set would have to cough up 1.04 Ampere. Still with me ? Each and every one of these 480 batteries can claim (in theory) to be able to keep up this 1.04 Ampere for a time of around 2.4 Ampere hour / 1.04 Ampere = 2 hours and 20 minutes.

Pretty expensive experiment ! In reality you'll be a lot better off, because on average your PC doesn't gobble up these 750 Watts at all. It is boasting 750 W peak but it would be a room heater if it did that continuously.

How about that for a verbose answer to a simple rhetorical question !

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Well, I wasn't expecting that response! Still taking it in, but thanks! :D
 
Thanks for the answer :D

1 AA Battery is 1.5v and 1 watt is 12v Right?
AA batteries are 1.5 Volt, yes.

1 Watt is not 12 V. ##\quad## 1 Watt is 1 Volt times 1 Ampere.

So one AA battery powering a 100 mA LED would be 0.15 Watt (1.5 V x 0.1 A)
 

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