Calculating binding energies of ground state electrons

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The discussion revolves around calculating the binding energies of ground state electrons in deuterium, He+, and Be+++. The original poster expresses uncertainty about applying hydrogen atom equations to these other atoms and questions how to adjust for their different atomic structures.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the applicability of hydrogen atom energy equations to hydrogenic atoms with different atomic numbers. There is a suggestion to use a modified equation that incorporates the atomic number (Z) for these calculations. The original poster is unsure about the correct approach and seeks clarification on the necessary adjustments.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified a potential equation for energy levels in hydrogenic atoms, and one has provided a calculation for the binding energy of deuterium. However, there is still uncertainty regarding the correct application of these equations to the other atoms mentioned, and no consensus has been reached on the overall approach.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes a lack of clarity on how to modify the hydrogen atom equations for other elements, as well as the absence of the Rydberg constant in the formulas they are considering. This indicates a potential gap in information or understanding regarding the energy level calculations for non-hydrogenic atoms.

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Homework Statement



What is the calculated binding energy of the electron in the ground state of (a) deuterium, (b) He^{+} and (c) Be^{+++}?

Homework Equations



For the hydrogen atom, E_{n} = - E_{o} / n^{2}

E_{o} = me^{4} / 2hbar^2(4\piEo)^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Not sure how to do this. Can I apply the above equations which are meant for a hydrogen atom to these other atoms? I don't believe so but I'm unsure how to change them.

I know how to correct the Rydberg constant for the different atoms, but it doesn't even appear in any of these formulas so I don't think that would change anything.

Not sure where to start. Help?
 
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Since you aren't dealing with Hydrogen, shouldn't you be using the equation for the approximate energy levels for any Hydrogenic atom with Z protons instead of the equation for Hydrogen's energy levels?
 
Yes, that would make sense, although I can't find that equation anywhere.
 
Ok, I finally found it online. E_{n} = (-Z^{2}R_{e}) / n^{2}
Where R_{e} = 0.5(m_{e}c^{2})\alpha^{2}
Where \alpha = 1/137
Therefore R_{e} = 0.5 [(9.11x10^-31 kg)(3.00x10^8 m/s)^2](1/137)^2
=2.184x10^-18 J = 13.65 ev

So for deuterium,
E_{n} = [(-1)^{2}(13.65ev)] / 1^{2}
E_{n} = 13.65ev

For He, the difference is that Z = 2, and thus E = 4(-13.65ev) = -54.6ev
and for Be Z = 4, and thus E = 16 (-13.65ev) = -218.4 ev
 
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