Calculating Bullet Trajectory Distance at 30° Angle

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The problem involves calculating the distance a bullet travels when shot at an initial velocity of 600 m/s at a 30-degree angle, assuming no air resistance. The discussion centers around breaking down the motion into horizontal and vertical components and applying kinematic equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss splitting the initial velocity into horizontal and vertical components using trigonometric functions. Questions arise about the implications of the angle on the calculations and the use of kinematic equations to find time and distance.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different components of motion and their relationships. Some have offered guidance on using vertical components to determine time in the air, while others are clarifying the significance of the initial velocity components.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of assuming gravity as 10 m/s² for simplification, and some participants express uncertainty about the calculations related to vertical and horizontal components, indicating a need for clarification on the application of kinematic equations.

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Homework Statement


A bullet is shot at initial velocity of 600m/s at an angle of 30 degrees. How far will it travel before landing? (Assume no air resistance)
v=600m/s
a=9.8m/s^2
t=?
distance=?


Homework Equations



x=x0+v0t+1/2at^2


The Attempt at a Solution



I'm stuck on this one. I can calculate its distance shot straight up, or from a level surface and I can calculate its time shot straight up or from a level surface. The angle is throwing me off. Does this have something to do with a cosine of 30 degrees?
 
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Yep :wink: To start, split the motion into horizontal and vertical components.
 
Okay. The horizontal component at 30 degrees is = 600cos30? And the vertical component is 600sin30? What now?
 
Robert Alan said:
Okay. The horizontal component at 30 degrees is = 600cos30? And the vertical component is 600sin30? What now?

Use the vertical components to find the total time taken for the motion


x=x_0 + v_0t - \frac{1}{2}gt^2
 
Okay. So I get x=300t-0.5t^2 (For this problem we assume g=10m/s^2). At 30 seconds it will attain a height of 4500. I got this by putting y=300t-5t^2 in my calculator and finding the maximum. Now I know how high it goes and how long it is in the air. Now what do I do to find the range of it?
 
Use the horizontal velocity to find out how far the bullet travels during the time it is in the air.
 
Robert Alan said:
Okay. So I get x=300t-0.5t^2 (For this problem we assume g=10m/s^2). At 30 seconds it will attain a height of 4500. I got this by putting y=300t-5t^2 in my calculator and finding the maximum. Now I know how high it goes and how long it is in the air. Now what do I do to find the range of it?

When the bullet hits the ground, the displacement is zero, so y=0 and find t.
 
Oh snap! So I got 30sec at the max time, double it because the rise and fall are symmetrical. That gives 60sec. Then using x=vt or x=600cos30(60) I got 31176.91 meters! Is that right?
 
that should be correct.
 
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Thanks so much for the help! I'm starting to see things now in terms of vectors. Very interesting! :)
 
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Robert Alan said:
Okay. So I get x=300t-0.5t^2 (For this problem we assume g=10m/s^2). At 30 seconds it will attain a height of 4500. I got this by putting y=300t-5t^2 in my calculator and finding the maximum. Now I know how high it goes and how long it is in the air. Now what do I do to find the range of it?

I am pretty bad at physics so I am trying to follow the problem but I get stuck here. I thought that v0=600m/s. How come you wrote 300? Is it because v0 is m/s while gravity is m/s2?
 
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MLeszega said:
I am pretty bad at physics so I am trying to follow the problem but I get stuck here. I thought that v0=600m/s. How come you wrote 300? Is it because v0 is m/s while gravity is m/s2?

Vertically for x=x0 +v0t-(1/2)gt2

v0 is the vertical component of the initial velocity.
 
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rock.freak667 said:
Vertically for x=x0 +v0t-(1/2)gt2

v0 is the vertical component of the initial velocity.

So v0 = 600sin(30) for the vertical component and 600cos(30) for the horizontal component?
 
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MLeszega said:
So v0 = 600sin(30) for the vertical component and 600cos(30) for the horizontal component?

yes.
 
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rock.freak667 said:
yes.

Ahh, ty very much!
 

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