Calculating Carbon Dioxide Output for Combustion Products: Mass & Volume

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The discussion revolves around calculating the carbon dioxide output per unit mass and volume from the combustion of methane (CH4). Participants explore the relationship between energy output and the resulting carbon dioxide production, focusing on both theoretical calculations and practical applications.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests guidance on calculating carbon dioxide output after determining energy outputs for combustion products.
  • Another participant suggests providing an example to clarify the approach.
  • A participant presents the balanced combustion equation for methane and calculates the enthalpy of combustion, energy output per unit mass, and energy output per unit volume.
  • Participants discuss the weights of moles of CH4 and CO2, noting that 1 mole of CO2 weighs 44g and 1 mole of CH4 weighs 16g.
  • There is a calculation presented for the energy output per mass of CO2, but a correction is noted regarding the divisor used in the calculation.
  • Further calculations are proposed for CO2 output per unit mass and volume, with one participant suggesting that the output is 2.75g of CO2 per g of CH4 or 1 liter of CO2 per liter of CH4 under stoichiometric conditions.
  • Another participant seeks confirmation on the units for CO2 output, suggesting they would be kj/kg and kj/m3, and presents calculations for energy output per unit mass and volume.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of confidence in their calculations, with some corrections and clarifications made. However, there is no consensus on the final calculations or methods for determining CO2 output per unit mass and volume.

Contextual Notes

Participants rely on specific assumptions regarding stoichiometric conditions and ideal gas behavior, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion includes unresolved mathematical steps and varying interpretations of the calculations presented.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in combustion chemistry, energy calculations, and the environmental impact of combustion processes.

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Carbon dioxide output??

How would you go about calculating the carbon dioxide output per unit mass and volume for combustion products, i have already calculated the energy outputs per unit mass and volume.

Many thanks.
 
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Pick an example and show us what you would try.
 
for eg. combustion of CH4:
CH4(g) + 2O2(g) ---> CO2(g) + 2H2O(l)

enthalpy of combustion: (-393.51) + 2(-241.82) - (-74.81) = -802.34 kj/mol

energy output per unit mass:
802.34 x 1000/16(molar mass) = -50146.25 kj/kg

energy output per unit volume:
-50146.25 x 0.645(mass density) = -32344.33 kj/m3

However I have no clue on how to calculate the carbon dioxide output per unit mass and volume, any help would be kindly appreciated.
Many thanks.
 
From the balanced equation, 1 mole of CH4 makes 1 mole of CO2. How much does a mole of CH4 weigh? What about a mole of CO2? And, at STP, what volume does a mole of (ideal) gas occupy.
 
1 mole of CO2= 44g
1 mole of CH4= 16g
At STP the volume of an ideal gas occupies 0.0224 m3...
 
for eg. combustion of CH4:
CH4(g) + 2O2(g) ---> CO2(g) + 2H2O(l)

enthalpy of combustion: (-393.51) + 2(-241.82) - (-74.81) = -802.34 kj/mol

energy output per unit mass:
802.34 x 1000/16(molar mass) = -50146.25 kj/kg

energy output per unit volume:
-50146.25 x 0.645(mass density) = -32344.33 kj/m3

1 mole of CO2= 44g
1 mole of CH4= 16g
At STP the volume of an ideal gas occupies 0.0224 m3...

the CO2 energy output per mass...
-802.34 kj/mol divided by 12 g/mol equals 66.86 kj/g

am i doing the right thing, and how would you calculate the CO2 output per unit volume?

Many thanks.
 
-802.34 kj/mol divided by 12 g/mol equals 66.86 kj/g
CORRECTION: DIVIDED BY 16G/MOL
 
mojo4king said:
1 mole of CO2= 44g
1 mole of CH4= 16g
At STP the volume of an ideal gas occupies 0.0224 m3...
So, the CO2 output (assuming stoichiometric conditions) is:
44g of CO2 per mole of CH4
OR
2.75g of CO2 per g of CH4
OR
1 liter of CO2 per liter of CH4...etc.
 
however i need to work out the CO2 output per unit mass and volume,
the units would be kj/kg and kj/m3,correct?

the CO2 energy output per mass...
-802.34 kj/mol divided by 12 g/mol equals 66860 kj/kg

the CO2 energy output per unit volume:
66860 x 0.645 (CH4 mass density)= 43124.7 kj/m3

Have i done these calculations properly?
Thanks.
 

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