Calculating clebsch gordan coefficients

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The discussion revolves around calculating Clebsch-Gordan coefficients for a system involving a particle of spin 1 and a particle of spin 2, focusing on the total spin of three and its z component equal to 1. The original poster seeks to determine the possible values and probabilities for the z component of the angular momentum of the spin 2 particle.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use a recursion relation to calculate probabilities but questions the validity of their method after obtaining inconsistent results. Other participants inquire about the possibility of using ladder operators as an alternative approach.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on alternative methods, such as ladder operators, which the original poster has found helpful in solving part of the problem. However, there is still ongoing exploration of the second problem, indicating that the discussion is active and evolving.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their method and results, indicating a need for clarification on the application of the recursion relation and normalization processes. There is also mention of orthogonality between states, which suggests a deeper exploration of the underlying principles is underway.

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Homework Statement


A particle of spin 1 and a particle of spin 2 are at rest in a configuration such that the total spin is three and its z component = 1. If you measured the z component of the ang mom of the spin 2 particle, what values might you get and what probabilities for each?


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I am trying to calculate the probabilities, not look them up in a table. I *think* the relevant equation is the recursion relation:
sqrt((j+-m)(j+-m+1))<j1j2;m1m2|j1j2;j,m+-1> = (stuff for changing m1, which i think i can disregard) + sqrt((j2-+m2+1)(j2+-m2))<j1j2;m1,m2-+1|j1j2;jm>
+- means plus sign over minus sign

The Attempt at a Solution


ok, so looking at possible cominations, m2 = 0, +1, +2
now, i think the key is plugging the right numbers into the square root, squaring it to get probability, adding up the three probabilities and normalizing them.
For measuring m2 = 0, i plugged in m2 = 1 and used the upper sign because i want m2-+1 to be equal to zero. i got sqrt(6). i think this is right, because i know the answer from looking at a table. but for m2 = 0 i plugged in 1 again but this time took the lower sign and i got sqrt(4) which is not right. so now i wonder about my whole method.
 
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do you have to use the recursion method? Can you use ladder operators instead?
 
Thanks for you reply. I actually figured out the above one of the 2 problems last night by using ladder operators and then normalizing. Hopefully I can figure out how to use ladder operators to do the second one.
 
indecicia said:
Thanks for you reply. I actually figured out the above one of the 2 problems last night by using ladder operators and then normalizing. Hopefully I can figure out how to use ladder operators to do the second one.

let J = s1 + s2 = 1+2

Then construct all J = 3 states, then you know that the state with J=2, mJ=2 is orthogonal to state J=3, mJ=2, then you have the starting point for making all J=2 states. and so on.
 

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