Calculating Crane Power with Constant Velocity: Two Homework Problems

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around two problems related to calculating power in lifting scenarios involving a person and a piano. The subject area includes concepts of work, power, and gravitational potential energy in the context of physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between force and power when lifting objects at constant velocity, questioning the implications of constant velocity on net force. There is discussion about using gravitational potential energy to calculate work done in the first problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using gravitational potential energy to find work done, while others are clarifying the reasoning behind equating work done to potential energy change. Multiple interpretations of the problems are being explored, particularly regarding the application of force in the context of constant velocity.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problems, including the implications of constant velocity and the definitions of work and power. There is an emphasis on understanding the physical principles rather than simply applying formulas.

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Homework Statement


2 problems.
1: A man lifts a 91kg person straight up a distance of 1.2m in 0.51s. What power is used to do this?

2: 3.00x10^2kg piano is lifted at a steady velocity from ground to a height of 10.0m. The crane doing the lifting has a steady power of 4.00x10^2W. What time does it take to do this?


Homework Equations


Both equations should be able to use P=Fd/t



The Attempt at a Solution


With both problems, the book states constant velocity so the F=ma=0, which doesn't make sense because that would make the answer 0.
Is there another way of finding force that i am forgetting?
Thanks
 
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alex7298 said:

Homework Statement


2 problems.
1: A man lifts a 91kg person straight up a distance of 1.2m in 0.51s. What power is used to do this?

2: 3.00x10^2kg piano is lifted at a steady velocity from ground to a height of 10.0m. The crane doing the lifting has a steady power of 4.00x10^2W. What time does it take to do this?


Homework Equations


Both equations should be able to use P=Fd/t



The Attempt at a Solution


With both problems, the book states constant velocity so the F=ma=0, which doesn't make sense because that would make the answer 0.
Is there another way of finding force that i am forgetting?
Thanks
That makes the net force and the net work = 0. But you're not looking for the net, you're looking for the work done by just one of the forces against gravity.
 
would I use GPE=mgh for the work?
so for problem 1: work=(91kg)(9.8)(1.2)=1070.16J===> P=1070.167J/0.51s=2098.366W?
 
alex7298 said:
would I use GPE=mgh for the work?
so for problem 1: work=(91kg)(9.8)(1.2)=1070.16J===> P=1070.167J/0.51s=2098.366W?
Yes, correct, as long as you understand why you are equating the work done by the man to the potential energy change of the person.
 

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