Calculating Current in a Series Circuit

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The discussion revolves around calculating current in a series circuit, specifically addressing the relationships between voltage, current, and resistance in the context of Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL). Participants are examining their approaches to solving the problem and the implications of their equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss their attempts to apply formulas for current and voltage in series circuits, questioning the validity of their approaches and the assumptions made regarding current through different resistors. There is a focus on the relationships between the currents and voltages in the circuit.

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Some participants are exploring different interpretations of the circuit equations and questioning the correctness of their methods. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider the correct current through each resistor and the implications of KVL in their equations. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity of the problem, with multiple unknowns being identified.

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Participants note that certain values, such as E sub_3, are not provided in the problem, which may affect their ability to solve for the currents accurately. The discussion also highlights the importance of correctly identifying current directions and their impact on the equations used.

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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



I = E/(R sub_1 + R sub_2)

The Attempt at a Solution



So I tried using the same approach for part a and it did not produce the same result.

here's what i did:

I sub_2 = E sub_2/(R sub_2 + R sub_3)

E sub_2 was given as 1.7V

I sub_2 = (1.7V)/(5) = .34 A <- answer for part b

I also noticed E sub_3 was not given in the problem.
 
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warnexus said:
So I tried using the same approach for part a and it did not produce the same result.

You got lucky if you got the right answer using this approach for (a) :)

here's what i did:

I sub_2 = E sub_2/(R sub_2 + R sub_3)

If you rearrange that equation, this is what you are saying:

E2 = I2R2 + I2R3

but this isn't true. The current through R2 is I2 but the current through R3 is not I2.
 
for part a I used E sub_1 = I(R sub_1) + I(R sub_3)

really? i got lucky. when i got the answer, I thought I knew how it works but I guess I do not. =(

what should be going in my mind when I approach this type of problem. I was thinking in order to find the current I sub_2 I know it is across from I sub_3 and picked that one because it is closest. that's why I sub_2 was multiplied by R sub_3
 
warnexus said:
what should be going in my mind when I approach this type of problem. I was thinking in order to find the current I sub_2 I know it is across from I sub_3 and picked that one because it is closest. that's why I sub_2 was multiplied by R sub_3

The current through a resistor results in a voltage drop and the total net voltage drop around a loop must be zero -- this is KVL.

In the equation you wrote:
E2 = I2R2 + I2R3

the voltage drop across R3 depends on the current through R3, not the current through R2.

So the correct equation would be:

E2 = I2R2 + I3R3

NOTE: BE CAREFUL THAT THE SIGNS ON THESE CURRENTS AGREE WITH YOUR ASSUMED CURRENT DIRECTIONS

Similarly in (a) you wrote an equation for the left loop but you used the same current through R1 and R3, which is probably not right.

The correct equation would use the currents through R1 (I1) and R2 (I2) to find the voltage drops across R1 and R2.

After you've written those two equations, you'll notice you have three unknowns (I1, I2, I3) so one more equation is needed to solve the system.When I looked at the problem, I saw two loops (KVL) and would have used mesh analysis to solve it but the above is equivalent.
 
thanks. i will use your input to finish this question.
 

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