Calculating Current in a Single-Loop Circuit with Resistor and Capacitor

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a single-loop circuit containing two resistors and a capacitor after the battery has been removed. The original poster seeks to determine the current flowing through one of the resistors, R1, using circuit equations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply a loop rule and integrate to find the current, but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their approach. Participants question the terminology used (referring to an RL circuit instead of a circuit with a capacitor) and the integration process.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's reasoning, pointing out potential errors in the application of equations and the integration process. There is a focus on clarifying the nature of the equations involved, with some participants suggesting a need to rethink the overall strategy.

Contextual Notes

There is confusion regarding the terminology used (RL vs. RC circuit) and the integration versus differentiation of terms in the equations. The discussion highlights the complexity of the relationships between current and voltage in the circuit.

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Homework Statement



There is a Battery connected to a single loop circuit containing two resistors, R1 and R2, and one capacitor L.

After a long time, the battery is removed, so there is a single loop circuit with just two resistors and a capacitor.

What is the current going through R1?

The Attempt at a Solution



This is what I thought:

So, the EMF is removed. Thus, using a loop rule, we have the formula:

0 = IR + L(di/dt) where R is R1+R2

Integrating, we have

0 = (1/2)(I^2)(R) + (L)(I)

Dividing everything by I, we have

0 = (1/2)(I)(R) + L

Thus, I = (2L) / R

However, this is incorrect.

Any ideas?

Thanks!
 
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There are a few problems here. You call this an RL circuit, and you use the equations for an RL circuit, but you say it contains a capacitor instead of an inductor. I assume you are just using the wrong word.

The second problem is here:
reising1 said:
0 = IR + L(di/dt) where R is R1+R2

Integrating, we have

0 = (1/2)(I^2)(R) + (L)(I)
Are you sure you did that correctly? What variable are you integrating with respect to?
 
Oh, wait. That is wrong.

With respect to I, you get:

R + LI = 0

So I = -R/L?
 
Deriving with respect to I. Sorry.
 
This is still not right because you differentiated one term and integrated the other.
 
You might want to rethink the whole strategy of trying to take an integral or a derivative.
You have both I and dI/dt in this equation. What kind of equation does that make it?
 
What do you mean?

d/di(RI) = R
d/di(L(di/dt)) = LI
 
differential equation
 
reising1 said:
What do you mean?

d/di(RI) = R
d/di(L(di/dt)) = LI

Taking a derivative of a derivative doesn't make the derivative do away.
 
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reising1 said:
differential equation

Yes!
 

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