Calculating Deceleration and Friction of Blocks A & B

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The problem involves two blocks, A and B, where block B is sliding on block A, which is on a frictionless surface. The discussion focuses on calculating the deceleration of block B, the acceleration of block A, and the final velocities of both blocks when they come to rest relative to each other. The context includes considerations of friction between the blocks and the absence of friction between block A and the surface beneath it.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need for additional information, such as the masses of the blocks and the coefficient of kinetic friction. There is an emphasis on understanding the terms "deceleration" and "acceleration" in the context of the problem. Some participants suggest using Newton's laws and drawing free body diagrams to clarify the forces at play.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach the problem. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several lines of reasoning are being explored, particularly regarding the application of Newton's laws and the importance of free body diagrams.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of certain critical information, such as the masses of the blocks and the coefficient of friction, which are necessary for solving the problem. The discussion also highlights the distinction between the terms "deceleration" and "acceleration" and the implications of Newton's third law in this context.

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Homework Statement



Block B has an initial velocity of 2.0 m/s to the right and is sliding across the surface of block A. Block A is resting on ideal, frictionless ice. Given the following, information:

a) The rate of "deceleration" of block B
b) The rate of acceleration of block A
c) The final velocity of both blocks. (Block B will come to "rest" on block A when the velocities of both blocks are equal. once the velocities of the two blocks are equal, what will be the frictional force they exert on each other?)

Homework Equations



f=ma

The Attempt at a Solution



for part a:

ma=.3(9.8)(1)

...what do i do for the this problem?
i'm so sorry, but i didn't know where to start at all :(
 
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Hello Runningirl,
runningirl said:
for part a:

ma=.3(9.8)(1)

...what do i do for the this problem?
i'm so sorry, but i didn't know where to start at all :(
Have you left out anything in the problem statement such as the mass of blocks A and B, and the coefficient of kinetic friction between blocks A and B? Or is your answer supposed to be in terms of mA, mB and μ?

Whatever the case, for part a) you're supposed to find the magnitude of block B's acceleration. Don't worry about the term "deceleration." It really means the same thing as acceleration, except it has the implication that the acceleration is in the opposite direction as the velocity. So just think of it as the magnitude of block B's acceleration for this problem.

Here is a hint on part b): Newton's third law of motion. Then apply the second law. :wink:
 
collinsmark said:
Hello Runningirl,

Have you left out anything in the problem statement such as the mass of blocks A and B, and the coefficient of kinetic friction between blocks A and B? Or is your answer supposed to be in terms of mA, mB and μ?

Whatever the case, for part a) you're supposed to find the magnitude of block B's acceleration. Don't worry about the term "deceleration." It really means the same thing as acceleration, except it has the implication that the acceleration is in the opposite direction as the velocity. So just think of it as the magnitude of block B's acceleration for this problem.

Here is a hint on part b): Newton's third law of motion. Then apply the second law. :wink:

oh, i forgot to add the information:

mass of block a: 3.00 kg and mass of block b: 1.00 kg
the coefficient of kinetic friction between the surfaces of A and B is 0.30
Friction doesn't exist between surfaces of A and the ice.
 
Okay, from your original post, you have "ma = 0.3(9.8)(1)". You know what block B's mass is, so solve for a. :wink:

See my previous post for hints on part b).
 
collinsmark said:
Okay, from your original post, you have "ma = 0.3(9.8)(1)". You know what block B's mass is, so solve for a. :wink:

See my previous post for hints on part b).

for part b, do i just do 3*9.8=ma?
but that would say my acceleration is 9.8...
 
what do you mean by applying Newton's third law?
 
Always start by drawing a FBD or Free Body Diagram
 
as donutz610 said above me drawing a FBD will help clarify in which directions force and accelerations are acting. starting with a proper and correct FBD is the best way to get you started on the right track.
 
runningirl said:
for part b, do i just do 3*9.8=ma?
but that would say my acceleration is 9.8...
The acceleration isn't 9.8 m/s2

Like others have said, refer to your free body diagram. Drawing one is important.

You don't know what aA is yet, you're solving for aA. But if you happen to already know what FA and mA are, you should be able to calculate aA.
what do you mean by applying Newton's third law?
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

You have calculated from part a) that block A exerts a force on block B [Edit: in particular, a horizontal force, in the form of a frictional force]. So what force does block B exert on block A? What is the net force on block A?
 
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