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The discussion revolves around calculating diffraction patterns using the Fresnel-Kirchoff formula, focusing on numerical methods for simulating diffraction from a square aperture. Participants explore issues related to replicating expected diffraction results and the challenges faced in numerical integration.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses difficulty in replicating diffraction patterns using the Fresnel-Kirchoff formula and seeks assistance with numerical integration methods.
  • Another participant suggests starting with a simpler scenario to validate the numerical approach and mentions the expected sin(x)/x pattern for a one-dimensional top hat function.
  • A third participant recommends using an online applet for Fresnel diffraction to compare results, specifically noting that it includes a square aperture option.
  • The original poster indicates that their results appear to show only a portion of the expected diffraction pattern and references a potential issue with one-sided spectra in Fourier transforms.
  • Further comments from the original poster suggest confidence in their input values but express confusion regarding the observed diffraction pattern, which seems incomplete.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the cause of the discrepancies in the diffraction patterns. Multiple viewpoints are presented regarding the approach to numerical integration and the interpretation of results.

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Participants mention potential issues with scaling and the representation of diffraction patterns, but these aspects remain unresolved. The discussion does not clarify the assumptions underlying the numerical methods used.

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Individuals interested in numerical methods for simulating diffraction, those studying the Fresnel-Kirchoff formula, or anyone exploring the behavior of light through apertures may find this discussion relevant.

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hi All,

I recently got interested in a general solution to diffraction from an object at verious distance and wavelengths. I came across the Fresnel Kirchoff formula (attached formula from Schnars, digital holography).

My problem is I cannot seem to replicate a diffraction that makes sense to me from this formula. My approach is to calculate numerically the terms inside the double integral, then integrate in x and y, and display the magnitude squared. If I try this with a square aperture centered in a opaque screen, I get something that looks like the image attached.

Am I doing something basic wrong?

Thanks in advance!
 

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Itg strikes me that you need to start with a very simple situation and aim at getting what you can predict analytically with your numerical method. You have probably made some simple error in your coding which you will either have to find by re-examining in detail or by breaking the problem down into individual steps. If your aperture just consists of a top hat function in one dimension then you would expect a sin(x)/x pattern, for instance.
Scaling could be a problem, too - dimensions in wavelengths etc.
 
To check your results, try to compare them against this applet for Fresnel diffraction:

http://www.falstad.com/diffraction/

One of the source options is a square aperture.
 
ok, thanks jtbell, the applet is useful, as you can see from my image, it looks like I´m just getting one corner of the actual diffraction pattern, which I don´t understand very well. I did read somewhere when doing Fourier transforms you get a one sided spectrum and have to reflect it, but I´m not entirely clear on why this is.

Any more info welcome!
 
hmm, after much fiddling around I´m pretty sure I´m putting in the right values, but for the diffraction pattern of a square aperture is the image you see below, which seems like one quarter of the real image or something like that.

any ideas?
 

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