Calculating $\displaystyle \lim_{x\to 0}$ Complex Limit

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The discussion revolves around calculating the limit $\displaystyle \lim_{x\to 0} \frac{x^2-\sin^2{x}}{\tan(3x^4)}$. Participants explore various methods to approach this limit, including L'Hôpital's Rule and series expansion, while addressing the challenges posed by indeterminate forms.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially presents the limit and applies L'Hôpital's Rule, resulting in a new limit that remains in an indeterminate form.
  • Another participant suggests that if indeterminate forms persist, L'Hôpital's Rule can be applied repeatedly.
  • A third participant mentions successfully solving the limit using series expansion, indicating an alternative approach to the problem.
  • Several participants provide detailed calculations that lead to the same result of $\frac{1}{9}$, but the method of arriving at this conclusion varies among them.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

While some participants arrive at the same numerical result, there is no consensus on the preferred method of solving the limit, as different approaches are discussed and utilized. The discussion reflects a variety of techniques without resolving which is the most effective.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the presence of multiple indeterminate forms, which complicates the application of L'Hôpital's Rule. The discussion also highlights the potential for different mathematical techniques to yield the same result, but does not resolve the effectiveness of each method.

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$\displaystyle \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{x^2-\sin^2{x}}{\tan(3x^4)}$

How do you calculate this one?

L'hopital gives me

$\displaystyle \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{2x\cos^2(3x^4)-\sin{2x}\cos^2(3x^4)}{12x^3}$
 
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Guest said:
$\displaystyle \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{x^2-\sin^2{x}}{\tan(3x^4)}$

How do you calculate this one?

L'hopital gives me

$\displaystyle \lim_{x \to 0} \frac{2x\cos^2(3x^4)-\sin{2x}\cos^2(3x^4)}{12x^3}$

This is another $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \frac{0}{0} \end{align*}$ indeterminate form, so use L'Hospital's Rule again. If you keep getting indeterminate forms, keep using it...
 
Prove It said:
This is another $\displaystyle \begin{align*} \frac{0}{0} \end{align*}$ indeterminate form, so use L'Hospital's Rule again. If you keep getting indeterminate forms, keep using it...
Yeah, but this time you have to use it like four times! :mad:

I got it solved by series expansion, though, so all is good. :)
 
$$\begin{align*}\lim_{x\to0}\dfrac{x^2-\sin^2x}{\tan3x^4}&=\lim_{x\to0}
\dfrac{x^2-\sin^2x}{\sin3x^4}\cdot\lim_{x\to0}\cos3x^4 \\
&=\lim_{x\to0}\dfrac{2x-\sin2x}{12x^3\cos3x^4} \\
&=\lim_{x\to0}\dfrac{2x-\sin2x}{12x^3} \\
&=\lim_{x\to0}\dfrac{2-2\cos2x}{36x^2} \\
&=\lim_{x\to0}\dfrac{4\sin2x}{72x} \\
&=\lim_{x\to0}\dfrac{8\cos2x}{72} \\
&=\dfrac19\end{align*}$$
 
greg1313 said:
$$\begin{align*}\lim_{x\to0}\dfrac{x^2-\sin^2x}{\tan3x^4}&=\lim_{x\to0}
\dfrac{x^2-\sin^2x}{\sin3x^4}\cdot\lim_{x\to0}\cos3x^4 \\
&=\lim_{x\to0}\dfrac{2x-\sin2x}{12x^3\cos3x^4} \\
&=\lim_{x\to0}\dfrac{2x-\sin2x}{12x^3} \\
&=\lim_{x\to0}\dfrac{2-2\cos2x}{36x^2} \\
&=\lim_{x\to0}\dfrac{4\sin2x}{72x} \\
&=\lim_{x\to0}\dfrac{8\cos2x}{72} \\
&=\dfrac19\end{align*}$$
Very nice, thank you.
 

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