Calculating distance between two Accelerometers

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of using accelerometers to calculate the distance or height between two points, specifically one at ground level and another held in hand. It explores the limitations of accelerometers in measuring gravitational differences and alternative methods for tracking locations within a specified range.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the difference in gravity's pull between an accelerometer on the ground and one in hand can be used to calculate height, suggesting a theoretical possibility.
  • Another participant counters that accelerometers lack the necessary sensitivity, and local mass variations would overshadow any height-related gravitational changes.
  • A different participant seeks methods to track an object located between 2 to 10 feet away, mentioning previous considerations of radio triangulation and light but finding them inadequate.
  • One suggestion is made that calibrating a sonar device to pressure and temperature could yield high accuracy for tracking within the specified range.
  • A participant shares experiences indicating that using accelerometers for motion tracking is challenging due to cumulative errors in position from small inaccuracies in acceleration measurements, referencing experiments with smartphones and the potential benefits of combining various tracking methods.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of accelerometers for distance measurement, with some asserting significant limitations while others propose alternative methods. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach for tracking distances accurately.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the sensitivity of accelerometers, the impact of local mass variations on gravitational measurements, and the challenges of numerical integration in tracking motion over time.

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Is it possible to have one accelerometer placed at ground level and one in your hand. and without either moving use the difference in Gravity's pull to calculate distance or rather height of the second accelerometer?
 
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Not really. Accelerometers aren't sensitive enough to begin with, but even if you take a sufficiently sensitive gravity probe, the variation due to local masses will be greater than variation due to height change.
 
well then i have another question, I've been trying to find a way to track the location of something that is > 2ft away < 10 ft away. is there any way to do this, i have looked at radio triangulation, light, etc but i cannot find anything.
 
If you calibrate it to pressure and temperature, a sonar should give you very high accuracy in such a range.
 
I'm not sure exactly what you're doing, but using strictly accelerometers to track the motion of something is a lot more difficult than it would seem, even if the thing is moving. Theoretically, if you know the acceleration and initial conditions, you can easily find the position by integrating twice. The problem is, when you do it numerically, tiny errors in acceleration lead to enormous errors in position. Some friends and I played around with tracking a smart phone using its accelerometer but found that after even 10 seconds or so, the position wasn't even accurate to within a few metres, and it gets much worse as time progresses. We didn't do much more in the way of actual testing, but research found that sonar popped up a lot, and we also found that usually a variety of methods are coupled together, which can improve accuracy.
 

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