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The discussion revolves around the calculation of G force from a force measurement obtained during drop tests involving an accelerometer. Participants explore the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration, as well as the implications of sampling rates in measuring deceleration during impacts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a drop test setup involving an object, an accelerometer, and various surfaces, noting the force measured as 46403.666 Newtons and seeking to convert this to G force.
  • Another participant suggests applying Newton's second law to determine deceleration based on the given force and mass of the object.
  • A different participant raises a point about estimating stopping time by measuring stopping distance and applying equations of motion, emphasizing the need for a sufficiently fast sampling rate.
  • One participant questions why the accelerometer outputs force instead of acceleration, indicating a potential area of confusion regarding the measurements being taken.

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Participants express various viewpoints on the calculations and measurements involved, but there is no consensus on the specific methods or interpretations of the data presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to calculate G force and the implications of the accelerometer's output.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge assumptions regarding stopping distance after impact and the adequacy of the accelerometer's sampling rate, but these remain unresolved and are dependent on specific conditions of the experiment.

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To summarize, I am doing some drop test by hanging an object off of a fork lift forks, raising it, dropping it onto either concrete floor or some foam/dampening material. an accelerometer is placed on the object being dropped (epoxied on).

if i am getting 46403.666 Newtons as the force, how much G force is that equivalent too? the mass of the object is 31.07 kg, the drop distance is 0.1524 m

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i have a 3/4" aluminum plate that is say 20x20", underneath of that i have bolted a 3/4" piece of particle board.

i drop it using a quick release mechanism (after leveling it to the best i can using a digital bulls eye level, within +/- 1°)

From a height of 6" it is landing on a pile of polyethylene extruded foam, 4" worth, pretty flat. beneath that is concrete floor. I was originally dropping it right on the concrete, but the deceleration spike was so high and the sample rate of my accelerometer was so low that i was aliasing and getting different results each time. The peaks were always different since my sample rate is less than 2 ms per sample. the foam has slowed it down enough to where i can actually see what is going on now. i can achieve higher peak G's by simply dropping from a higher distance.

so the problem is i am still not 100% sure that i have an adequate sample rate (you know fs/2 and all that fun stuff). I made pretty good assumptions by doing a drop test repeatedly from x height and getting the same result every time, and then another test where i did 6 inch, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, and have got a decline in the peak G force - as you can see from the graphs i attached. another test you can see (test 1c and test 1d) i have dropped two times from 1" (as close as i could measure) and got exactly the same peak within two decimal places and similar damping oscillations after.

so again i think its safe to assume i am actually sampling the right thing now.

I would like to calculate this to prove that i am close to the real world results. however there are a few assumptions that have to be made. one of them would be the distance traveled after impact. on concrete i can assume this is a very small number, since it would be the compression of the particle board only, which can't be more than a couple millimeters. the concrete floor and the 3/4" aluminum block are presumably negligible.

i am using this site as a guidline for calculations

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/flobi.html

if i am getting 46403.666 Newtons as the force, how much G force is that equivalent too?

Any input is greatly appreciated.
 

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if i am getting 46403.666 Newtons as the force, how much G force is that equivalent too? the mass of the object is 31.07 kg...

Apply Newton's second law to work out the deceleration.
 
As for the sampling rate... You could estimate the "stopping time" by measuring the stopping distance and applying the equations of motion. You will need to sample somewhat faster than that.
 
if i am getting 46403.666 Newtons as the force, how much G force is that equivalent too? the mass of the object is 31.07 kg, the drop distance is 0.1524 m

One question... Why does the accelerometer give the output as a force not an acceleration?
 

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