Calculating Distance Between Two Rocks When Thrown at 30 Degrees

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The discussion revolves around calculating the distance between two rocks thrown from a hill at an angle of 30 degrees, one above and one below the horizontal line, both with an initial speed of 13 m/s. Participants are exploring the initial vertical velocities of the rocks and how they affect the distance between them upon landing.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are attempting to determine the initial vertical speed of the rock thrown downward and whether it is the same as the initial speed given. There is also a focus on understanding how to calculate the initial speeds based on the angle of projection.

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Some guidance has been provided regarding the initial vertical velocities of the rocks, with one participant confirming the downward rock's initial vertical velocity as -6.5 m/s. Multiple interpretations of the initial conditions are being explored, particularly concerning the calculations of vertical and horizontal components of velocity.

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Participants are working with the assumption that the initial speed is 13 m/s for both rocks, and there is some uncertainty about how to apply this speed in the context of the angles at which the rocks are thrown.

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some body help me...it is very simple...somebody throws two rocks from the top of a hill, one above the horizontal line and the other rock below the horizontal line, at an angle of 30 degrees for both rocks and the inicial speed is 13m/s for both rocks as well...the quiestion is how far does the rock 1 is from rock two when they both touch the ground..(rock 1 is the one below horizontal line...rock 2 over the hor...line)...wht i do not know is if wheter rock one(going down) has an inicial speed of 6.5m/s or 13m/s...by the way 6.5m/s comes from the inicial vertical velocity= (sin30)(13m/s)...

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i have the picture in my book..just tellme if you know how to calculate the inical speed when a body is thrown downward at an angle of 30 degrees (below the horizontal line) with an initial speed of 13m/s?is it the same speed as the inicial vertical velocity or it is only the inicial speed given..?
 
flash21 said:
i have the picture in my book..just tellme if you know how to calculate the inical speed when a body is thrown downward at an angle of 30 degrees (below the horizontal line) with an initial speed of 13m/s?is it the same speed as the inicial vertical velocity or it is only the inicial speed given..?

the initial horizontal speed is 13cos(30). The initial vertical speed is 13sin(-30) = -13sin(30). in other words the initial vertical speed is 13sin(30) downwards.
 
i suppose that it is -6.5 then?
 
flash21 said:
i suppose that it is -6.5 then?

Yes, the one thrown downward at 30 degrees below the horizontal has initial vertical velocity -6.5m/s.

The one thrown above has initial vertical velocity 6.5m/s.
 

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