Calculating Distance Traveled by a Particle using Differentiation and Graphing

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the distance traveled by a particle along the x-axis, given its position function x=1+t-t² over the first second. Participants are exploring the implications of differentiation and graphing in their attempts to find the correct distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss differentiating the position function to find velocity and acceleration, questioning the necessity of this step. There are attempts to calculate the area under the velocity-time graph and relate it to the distance traveled, with some confusion about the interpretation of results.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the problem and the calculation methods, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or answer.

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There is mention of discrepancies between calculated values and provided answer options, leading to questions about the accuracy of the answer key. Participants are also considering the implications of initial position in their calculations.

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Homework Statement


The position of a particle along x-axis at time 't' is given by x=1+t-t2.The distance traveled by the particle in the first second is.
A) 1m B) 2m C) 2.5m D) 3m

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The Attempt at a Solution


Differentiating x wrt t we get, v=1-2t and double differentiating x wrt to t we get a=-2m/s2.
I plotted a V-t graph. The velocity will be 0 at t=0.5 sec , 1 at t=0sec and -1 at t=1 sec. Finding the area under the graph I got 0.5m. Where have I gone wrong? I got 2.5m when I substituted t=0.5 in x and multiplied it by 2. But why is the graph method not working?
 
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takando12 said:
Differentiating x wrt t we get, v=1-2t and double differentiating x wrt to t we get a=-2m/s2.
I plotted a V-t graph. The velocity will be 0 at t=0.5 sec , 1 at t=0sec and -1 at t=1 sec. Finding the area under the graph I got 0.5m. Where have I gone wrong? I got 2.5m when I substituted t=0.5 in x and multiplied it by 2. But why is the graph method not working?
That's more complicated than it needs to be.

The function x(t) already gives you the position at each time, so there's no need to differentiate.

takando12 said:
Finding the area under the graph I got 0.5m
How did you find the area under the curve? By integrating the velocity w.r.t. time? That just gets you back to the original function (except now you lost information about the initial position). Why differentiate just to integrate? It's redundant (and leaves more room for mistakes).
 
Nathanael said:
The function x(t) already gives you the position at each time, so there's no need to differentiate.
I differentiated it to find out when the velocity will be 0. Only after knowing that can i split the time period and use the x(t) to find the distance.
Nathanael said:
How did you find the area under the curve? By integrating the velocity w.r.t. time? That just gets you back to the original function (except now you lost information about the initial position). Why differentiate just to integrate? It's redundant (and leaves more room for mistakes).
I drew a v-t graph and there were two triangles , i added their area using 1/2*b*h*2.
[1/2*1/2*1] + [1/2*1/2*1]=0.5 m.
 
takando12 said:
I differentiated it to find out when the velocity will be 0. Only after knowing that can i split the time period and use the x(t) to find the distance.
Good so far.
takando12 said:
I drew a v-t graph and there were two triangles , i added their area using 1/2*b*h*2.
[1/2*1/2*1] + [1/2*1/2*1]=0.5 m.
Good again.
It's the 2.5m answer that's wrong. The question asks for the distance travelled; the particle didn't start at 0.
 
haruspex said:
Good so far.

Good again.
It's the 2.5m answer that's wrong. The question asks for the distance travelled; the particle didn't start at 0.
But 0.5 is not even in the options. And the answer key says it's 2.5m. Just to be clear, when x(t) =1 for t=0 sec. So when I calculate for 0.5 sec, the value of x I get is inclusive of the 1m in the beginning? So I should subtract x(0.5)-1= 1.25-1=0.25. And so the final answer 0.25*2=0.5 fits with the v-t graph.
So the options are wrong?
 
takando12 said:
I differentiated it to find out when the velocity will be 0. Only after knowing that can i split the time period and use the x(t) to find the distance.
Sorry about that, I misinterpreted the question. (I thought it was asking for the displacement.)

takando12 said:
But 0.5 is not even in the options. And the answer key says it's 2.5m. Just to be clear, when x(t) =1 for t=0 sec. So when I calculate for 0.5 sec, the value of x I get is inclusive of the 1m in the beginning? So I should subtract x(0.5)-1= 1.25-1=0.25. And so the final answer 0.25*2=0.5 fits with the v-t graph.
So the options are wrong?
Yes, the options are wrong, good job.

(As Haruspex pointed out, the answer is probably meant to be 2.5m, but that is a mistake. Your answer is correct.)
 
Nathanael said:
Sorry about that, I misinterpreted the question. (I thought it was asking for the displacement.)Yes, the options are wrong, good job.

(As Haruspex pointed out, the answer is probably meant to be 2.5m, but that is a mistake. Your answer is correct.)
Thank you so much sir or rather sirs.
 

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