Calculating Drag Force on Spheres for Airsoft/Paintball

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This discussion focuses on improving the accuracy of drag force calculations for Airsoft and Paintball BBs by incorporating drag coefficients and the drag equation. The user seeks guidance on utilizing known properties such as diameter and surface smoothness to calculate the drag coefficient. It is established that calculating the drag coefficient of a sphere analytically is not feasible and requires Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD). Instead, experimental data and charts relating drag coefficients to Reynolds numbers provide a practical approach for determining drag across varying velocities.

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  • Understanding of basic physics principles, particularly fluid dynamics.
  • Familiarity with the drag equation and drag coefficients.
  • Knowledge of Reynolds number and its significance in fluid mechanics.
  • Experience with integrating equations for trajectory calculations.
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  • Research Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) techniques for drag force analysis.
  • Study experimental data on drag coefficients for spheres at varying Reynolds numbers.
  • Learn how to apply the drag equation in trajectory simulations for projectiles.
  • Explore numerical methods for integrating equations related to motion under drag forces.
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This discussion is beneficial for software developers in the Airsoft and Paintball community, physicists interested in fluid dynamics, and anyone involved in optimizing projectile performance through accurate drag calculations.

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I maintain a small piece of software for the Airsoft/Paintball community. I include some basic energy and velocity calculations but I have also as of a few versions back started including more "theoretical" calculations like how far a BB will travel and that sort of thing. I want to improve the calculations I am using to be more accurate and take drag into account.

I've taken some physics but we just touched fluid dynamics a little bit. I have been trying to get together the equations and information I will need to translate all of this into code. So far I have been able to find equations for drag coefficients and the drag equation, but honestly I don't really know how to use these.

For calculating my drag coefficient I can easily find things like the mass density of air and so on, but it's the stuff specific to my object that I have problems with. Would someone please explain to me the process putting all the information I have into these equations?
 
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What else would you need besides the drag co-efficient and the drag equation? How did you find the co-efficient without knowing stuff specific to your object? All you should need to know is the radius and smooth or non-smooth surface.
 
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What else would you need besides the drag co-efficient and the drag equation? How did you find the co-efficient without knowing stuff specific to your object? All you should need to know is the radius and smooth or non-smooth surface.

Sorry, I must not have made it clear. As far as information I know, I know the properties of the object. They are smooth, I know the diameter. I am just trying to understand how I use all this information to find things like the drag coefficient and then using that to calculate the drag on the BB at any point in time.

Using that I should have no problem converting this into an integral that I will eventually have to find an algebraic representation of.
 
Calculating the drag coefficient of a sphere cannot be done analytically. It would require CFD.

There is a lot of experimental data out there however. In fact there are charts that give the drag coefficient of a sphere as a function of the Reynolds number. Which for a given object at atmospheric conditions is just a function of velocity. So you could use just one drag coefficient for the entire trajectory or if the velocity changes significantly you could account for the changing drag coefficient by using the experimental data to determine the Cd at the current velocity.
 

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