Calculating Earth's Orbit Period using Kepler's Law of Periods

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The discussion revolves around calculating the period of Earth's orbit using Kepler's Law of Periods. Participants are exploring the relationship between the distance from the Earth to the sun and the mass of the sun, as well as how to apply the relevant formula to find the orbital period.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss applying Kepler's Law of Periods and express uncertainty about how to proceed with the calculations. Questions are raised about the simplifications involved, such as the exclusion of Earth's mass and the implications of leap years on the orbital period. There is also a focus on understanding the precision of astronomical measurements.

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Some participants have offered guidance on using the formula and provided values for constants, while others express confusion about the calculations and the reasoning behind certain assumptions. Multiple interpretations of the problem and its requirements are being explored.

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Participants note the need to express the answer in both seconds and years, and there is mention of a discrepancy with the accepted Earth orbital period of 365.25 days, prompting discussions about the reasons behind this difference.

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Simple Physics question.

I thInk this is physics? anyhow.. :confused:

I found that the distance from the Earth to the sun is 1.5*10^11m , and
that the mass of the sun is 1.9*10^30kg,

and i found Keplers's Law of Periods here
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/kepler.html#c6

but I do not understand how to do the rest... :shy: :confused: :cry:

1.use Kepler’s Law of Periods to find the period of the earth’s orbit, recorded in seconds
2.show how to express your answer in years; and
3.if your answer does not agree with the accepted Earth orbital period of 365.25 days, explain the discrepancy.
 
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orbity said:
I thInk this is physics? anyhow.. :confused:

I found that the distance from the Earth to the sun is 1.5*10^11m , and
that the mass of the sun is 1.9*10^30kg,

and i found Keplers's Law of Periods here
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/kepler.html#c6

but I do not understand how to do the rest... :shy: :confused: :cry:

1.use Kepler’s Law of Periods to find the period of the earth’s orbit, recorded in seconds
2.show how to express your answer in years; and
3.if your answer does not agree with the accepted Earth orbital period of 365.25 days, explain the discrepancy.

1. Just apply the formula. To help you out, write down the values of the variables and constants.

2. How many seconds in a year? (1 Year = 365 days*24 hours/day*60 minutes/hour*60 seconds/minute)

3. Think of the simplifications involved. Some hints : what's the reason for the leap year? Make a recalculation taking the leap year cycle into account. Can that alone explain the discrepancy? Why does the mass of the Earth not appear in the formula? Is that an acceptable simplification? Do you think these astronomical measurements of distance and mass are made or given to the requisite precision? Justify your concern about data precision by estimating the relative uncertainty in the final answer caused by relative uncertainties in each of the variables.
 
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Curious3141 said:
1. Just apply the formula. To help you out, write down the values of the variables and constants.

2. How many seconds in a year? (1 Year = 365 days*24 hours/day*60 minutes/hour*60 seconds/minute)

3. Think of the simplifications involved. Some hints : what's the reason for the leap year? Make a recalculation taking the leap year cycle into account. Can that alone explain the discrepancy? Why does the mass of the Earth not appear in the formula? Is that an acceptable simplification? Do you think these astronomical measurements of distance and mass are made or given to the requisite precision? Justify your concern about data precision by estimating the relative uncertainty in the final answer caused by relative uncertainties in each of the variables.

thanks for your help but i don't know how to do any of that, its ok
 
orbity said:
thanks for your help but i don't know how to do any of that, its ok

Why is it OK? Isn't this stuff you're supposed to learn to do?:confused:

Start with the formula.[tex]T^2 = \frac{4\pi^2}{GM}a^3[/tex]. You're required to find the value of T. If you use standard (SI) units for all the other constants and variables, you'll get T in seconds as required for the first part.

G is the Universal Constant of Gravitation, given by 6.673*10^(-11) Nm^2/kg^2.

M is given as 1.9*10^30 kg. a (technically the semi-major axis of an elliptical orbit, but don't worry about that now) is given as 1.5*10^11 m. [tex]\pi[/tex] is approx. 3.1416, or you can use the calculator value.

So where's the difficulty, at least in the first part?
 

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