Calculating Efficiency of Electric Vehicle

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The discussion revolves around calculating the efficiency of an electric vehicle, focusing on power and energy requirements for maintaining speed and fuel consumption calculations related to gasoline. The problem involves applying physics concepts related to force, power, and energy in the context of vehicle dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculations for power and energy needed for an electric vehicle, with attempts to verify initial answers. There is exploration of unit conversions and the relationship between energy produced from gasoline combustion and the power generated. Questions arise regarding the correct application of units and the time factor in power calculations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing calculations and seeking clarification on unit conversions and the relationships between different quantities. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider time in power calculations, and there is a recognition of the importance of unit consistency.

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There are multiple parts to the original problem, and participants are working through them sequentially. The discussion includes assumptions about vehicle speed and fuel efficiency, as well as the energy content of gasoline.

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Homework Statement


For the following calculations, assume a typical electric car will need to apply a constant forc of 165 N to maintain a typical highway speed of 100 km/hr (27.7778 m/s).

A: What power (watts) is needed to maintain this speed?
B: What energy (Joules) is needed to travel 100 km at 100 km/hr?
C: Given that the combustion of gasoline will produce 4.73x10^7 J /kg of gasoline consumed, and the density of gasoline is .74 kg/L, if a car can get 32 mi/gal at 100 km/hr, what power is being generated by the combustion reaction? (in watts)

There are several additional parts to answer on this question, but I think I can get going if I get these answered.

Homework Equations


Power = Force x Velocity
Energy = Power x Time

The Attempt at a Solution


I think I have the first 2 answers but wanted to check that they were correct:
A: 165 N x 27.7778 m/s = 4583.34 Watts
B: 4583.34 Watts x 3600s = 1.65x10^7 Joules

C: I didn't get much further than unit conversion on this one.
32.0 mi/gal = 51499 m / 3.7854 L = 13604.63888 m / L
.74 kg/L x 3.7854 L = 2.8011 kg...and this is where I start to trail off and have no grasp on what I'm doing..

Thanks for the help!
 
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bnashville said:

Homework Statement


For the following calculations, assume a typical electric car will need to apply a constant forc of 165 N to maintain a typical highway speed of 100 km/hr (27.7778 m/s).

A: What power (watts) is needed to maintain this speed?
B: What energy (Joules) is needed to travel 100 km at 100 km/hr?
C: Given that the combustion of gasoline will produce 4.73x10^7 J /kg of gasoline consumed, and the density of gasoline is .74 kg/L, if a car can get 32 mi/gal at 100 km/hr, what power is being generated by the combustion reaction? (in watts)

There are several additional parts to answer on this question, but I think I can get going if I get these answered.

Homework Equations


Power = Force x Velocity
Energy = Power x Time

The Attempt at a Solution


I think I have the first 2 answers but wanted to check that they were correct:
A: 165 N x 27.7778 m/s = 4583.34 Watts
B: 4583.34 Watts x 3600s = 1.65x10^7 Joules

C: I didn't get much further than unit conversion on this one.
32.0 mi/gal = 51499 m / 3.7854 L = 13604.63888 m / L
.74 kg/L x 3.7854 L = 2.8011 kg...and this is where I start to trail off and have no grasp on what I'm doing..

Thanks for the help!

For part C, you have calculated how many kg of gasoline would be used to travel 32 miles. This fuel consumption is based on the car traveling at a speed of 100 km/hr. The question asks you to figure out how much power is being generated from the combustion of the gasoline which is consumed at this speed. (Hint: you know how much energy in J/kg is produced from the combustion of gasoline, and you have worked out the number of kg of gasoline burned in traveling 32 miles. The speed of the car (100 km/hr) tells you how quickly the energy must be used, so you can then calculate the power derived from the combustion of the gasoline.)
 
Thanks for the quick reply!

So do I just take: 2.8011 kg x 4.73x10^7 J/kg x 27.7778 m/s = 3.68x10^9 Watts ?

If that is correct, I don't really understand how to units work out. How do we go from kg*((kgm^2/s^2)/kg)*(m/s) to Watts which I think is (kgm^2/s^2)/s
 
Remember, 1 watt = 1 J/s.

If the car is traveling at a speed of 100 km/hr, how long does it take the car to go 32 miles? That's how you find out the time in which the energy (and thus the power) is generated.
 
so to travel 32 miles = 51499m / 27.7778 m/s = 1853.9625 seconds
and 2.8011 kg x 4.73x10^7 J/kg x 1853.9625 s = 2.4563x10^11 Watts ?

Thanks for the help!
 
1 watt = 1 J/s The '/' means you divide by the time. Always check your units.
 
I think I see it now, I get confused if I don't break down all the units...
( 2.8011 kg x 4.73x10^7 J/kg ) / 1853.9625 seconds = 71464.24418 Watts

Thanks!
 

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