Calculating Electric Force: Coulomb's Law Example and Solution

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The problem involves calculating the electric force between two identical conducting spheres with charges 3q and -q, initially attracting each other with a specified force when separated by a certain distance. The spheres are then brought into contact and separated again, prompting a question about the new force between them.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss rearranging Coulomb's law to find the charges Q1 and Q2, with some expressing uncertainty about their algebraic manipulations. Questions arise regarding the correct formula and steps to isolate the charges.

Discussion Status

Several participants are engaged in clarifying the algebraic rearrangement of the formula. There is a focus on ensuring proper steps are followed, with some guidance provided on maintaining unit consistency in the calculations. No consensus has been reached on the correct approach yet.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement, which includes specific charge values and distances, while also addressing the need for correct algebraic manipulation in the context of Coulomb's law.

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Homework Statement


Two identical conducting spheres of charges 3q and -q attract each other with a force of 36 x 10-3N. When they are separated by a distance of 0.2 m. The spheres are brought into contact with each other and then separated by a distance of 0.1 m.

What is the magnitude of the electric force on each one exerts on the other?

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I just need to make sure that i can get Q1 and Q2 correctly[/B]

So what i tried to do was rearrange the formula to fit the question by doing
Q1 x Q2 = k x f / d2

so, 9x109 x 36 x 10-3
(0.2)2

= 324 x 106
(2 x 10-1)2

= 324 x 108
2

= 162 x 108

so Q1 = 162 and Q2 is -54

I think its wrong, please can anyone check
 
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deldel said:
So what i tried to do was rearrange the formula to fit the question by doing
Q1 x Q2 = k x f / d2
That rearrangement is not correct. Show your steps.
 
What is the formula to find Q1 and Q2

how should i properly arrange it?
 
deldel said:
What is the formula to find Q1 and Q2

how should i properly arrange it?
What formula did you begin with? It should be elementary algebra to rearrange it. So show your steps.
 
i began with F = K x Q1 x Q2 / d2


since the force is given but the charges were not, i tried to swap them, resulting in

Q1 x Q2 = K x F / d2


but it was incorrect
 
deldel said:
i began with F = K x Q1 x Q2 / d2


since the force is given but the charges were not, i tried to swap them, resulting in

Q1 x Q2 = K x F / d2


but it was incorrect
It's incorrect because your algebra is incorrect.

You can't just "swap" variables from one side to the other. Operations must be performed identically on each side of an equation to accomplish what you want.

Start again with the original equation. As a first step, multiply both sides by d2.
 
Alright, Thank you sir.
 
In addition, it is useful to keep the units in the equations. You would have noted the problem then because the units do not match any more.
 

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