Calculating Electric Potential in a Uniformly Charged Spherical Shell

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The discussion revolves around calculating the electric potential in a uniformly charged spherical shell, with given potentials at specific distances from the center. Participants are exploring the implications of the shell theorem and the relationships between potential and charge.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the potential difference and its relation to work done, question the implications of the shell theorem, and explore mathematical expressions for potential inside and outside the shell. There are attempts to formulate equations based on the provided potentials.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on the shell theorem and potential expressions. There is recognition of the need to clarify the mathematical representation of potential and the implications of the given values. Multiple interpretations are being explored, particularly regarding the relationships between charge, radius, and potential.

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Participants note the potential values given in the problem and question the assumptions regarding the radius and charge. There is an emphasis on the need for a constant of proportionality in the equations being discussed.

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A non conducting spherical shell is uniformly charged. The electrostatic potential at the centre is 200v and the electrostatic potential at the distance r=50cm from the centre is 40v. Find the radius of sphere a.

I am not sure where go with this.

I know that the potential difference is equal to the work done in moving from one point to another.

Any help or direction would be appreciated,

Thanks
 
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Do you know the shell theorem?

If so, what does it tell you about the potential inside a uniformly charged shell? And what is the potential outside the shell?

Frame equations based on answers to the above questions, and you should be able to solve for radius.
 
But the question states that the potential inside the shell is 200v
 
sm09 said:
But the question states that the potential inside the shell is 200v

Yes it does. How can you express the potential inside the shell mathematically? Say the shell has a charge Q, radius R.
 
Q/r^2
 
sm09 said:
Q/r^2

Noo!

You need to add in the constant of proportionality k=1/4\pi \epsilon before you can use that. And even then, kQ/r2 is the electric field outside the shell. You need the potential inside the shell...
 
Is the potential energy constant through the shell?
 
sm09 said:
Is the potential energy constant through the shell?

Yes it is. Or equivalently, the electric potential is constant throughout the shell. That's indirectly what the shell theorem states...
 
So obviously r has to be less that 50cm.

Can we say Q/r^2= 200v and Q/(r^2 - 50^2) = 40v?

Then we can find Q and substitute it into one of the equations so find r?
 
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sm09 said:
So obviously r has to be less that 50cm.

Yes! :approve:

Can we say Q/r^2= 200v and Q/(r^2 - 50^2) = 40v?

You didn't pay attention to this post..

Infinitum said:
You need to add in the constant of proportionality k=1/4πϵ before you can use that. And even then, kQ/r2 is the electric field outside the shell. You need the potential inside the shell...
 
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Yes my mistake. Thanks for your help. Was slightly confused at first but now makes sense.

Very much appreciated
 
  • #12
sm09 said:
Yes my mistake. Thanks for your help. Was slightly confused at first but now makes sense.

Very much appreciated

Glad you figured it out. :smile:
 

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