Calculating Electromagnetic Wave Intensity in a 30 sq m Room

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The discussion revolves around calculating the intensity of electromagnetic waves produced by a machine in a 30 square meter room. Participants explore the implications of different types of electromagnetic radiation, such as radio waves and light, and consider factors affecting intensity, including room characteristics and wall materials.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the term "machine" likely refers to a transmitter and emphasizes the importance of specifying the type of electromagnetic wave being discussed.
  • Another participant notes that the intensity of the waves would depend on the wall material and its absorption characteristics, questioning whether the discussion pertains to radio waves or light.
  • A hypothetical scenario is presented where the intensity of radiated power through walls is calculated based on the total wall area and the power output of the transmitter.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the original poster's question relates to health and safety, indicating a potential underlying concern about electromagnetic exposure.
  • There is a mention of a previous discussion regarding energy density in a room, suggesting that the total energy stored would relate to the power input and absorption fraction, regardless of resonance effects.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the type of electromagnetic wave being discussed or the implications of room characteristics on intensity calculations. Multiple competing views remain regarding the relevance of wall materials and the nature of the original question.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of specific details about the machine and the type of electromagnetic wave, as well as assumptions regarding wall materials and their properties. The discussion also does not resolve the implications of resonance or the need for transmitter tuning.

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Hi,
If I build a machine that its sole purpose is to radiate xx Hz of electromagnetic wave, how do I calculate the intensity of the waves? Let's say I put it in the room of 30 sq meters.
Thank you.
 
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Welcome to PF. That's a tough question to answer because you are not specifying enough. A "machine" is not normally the way we'd go about producing EM waves. I assume. you mean an electronic device of some sort - we could call that a Transmitter with an aerial and the room would have 'normal' walls; i.e. not metal, other than the odd bits of metal in the wiring and a couple of steel beams. If you're talking in terms of Radio Frequency waves, most of the Power that the transmitter produces would escape through the walls and some of it would be absorbed in the material.
You are jumping into the subject more than half way and it would be more usual to talk in terms of putting the aerial out in 'free space', where it would be radiating its power equally in all directions. (This is actually impossible to achieve and most aerials will have some significant directivity over just a range of directions but just let's assume it's omnidirectional) and that the wavelength is around 0.1m (so it's not large compared with the room size).

If you looked at the Power radiated through the walls of a spherical (well why not?) room with a total wall area of 100m2 and, if the transmitter was radiating 100W, then the 'intensity' of the radiated power through the walls would be 100/100 = 1W per m2. If you had a bigger room with 1000m2 of wall area then the intensity would be 0.1W/m2 as it spreads out over ten times the area etc. etc.

Now tell us what you were really wondering about. It sounds like the results of a conversation in a pub near closing time.(?):smile: Is this a Health and Safety question?
 
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Is it radio or light?
 
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anorlunda said:
Is it radio or light?
Would it matter, in an ideal case? If the walls are reflective then, as in the RF case, the energy density would depend on the absorption coefficient. Iirc there was a similar thread not long ago in which the total energy stored in the room space would be equal to the power input divided by the fraction absorbed. This would be true whether or not there is a resonance but the transmitter matching might need to be re-tuned to obtain the same power input.

This may not be helping the OP, though.
 
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