Calculating equivelent resistance and equivelent capaictance

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The discussion revolves around calculating equivalent resistance and capacitance in electrical circuits, specifically focusing on two problems involving series and parallel configurations of resistors and capacitors.

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  • Participants explore the calculations for equivalent resistance and capacitance, questioning the application of series and parallel rules. Some participants express uncertainty about their reasoning, particularly in distinguishing between series and parallel arrangements.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's reasoning, with some providing clarifications and prompting others to reconsider their calculations. There is a recognition of the correct method being applied, though specific arithmetic checks remain unverified.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the arrangement of components in the circuit diagrams, leading to discussions about how to properly combine values for series and parallel configurations.

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Homework Statement


Below is a link to the problems, A and B.

http://oi62.tinypic.com/28bgqao.jpg

Homework Equations


For series:
R=∑R_i
1/C=∑ 1/C_i

For Parralell
1/R=∑ 1/R_i
C=∑ C_i

The Attempt at a Solution


I usually don't have any problems when it comes to calculating effective resistance, its only in capacitance, but as I always assumed as its the same principle but in reverse (i.e. the equation for capacitance in series is the same as for resistance in parallel and vice versa) I am not sure why so would greatly appreciate your input into what I am doing wrong.

Part A:
Top Branch:
[itex] (\frac{1}{12}+\frac{1}{27})^{-1}+(\frac{1}{48}+\frac{1}{4})^{-1}+33=45Ω[/itex]

Bottom Branch:
[itex] 18+54+(\frac{1}{11}+\frac{1}{16})^{-1}=78.52Ω[/itex]

Total:
[itex] (\frac{1}{45}+\frac{1}{78.52})^{-1}=28.61Ω[/itex]For Part B:
Top Branch:
[itex] 2 + 20 + (\frac{1}{16}+\frac{1}{35})^{-1} = 32.98 \mu F[/itex]

Bottom:
[itex] 37+11+43=91 \mu F[/itex]

Total:
[itex] 32.98+91=123.98 \mu F[/itex]
 
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FaraDazed said:
For Part B:
Top Branch:
[itex] 2 + 20 + (\frac{1}{16}+\frac{1}{35})^{-1} = 32.98 \mu F[/itex]
Take another look at what is going on in this line.
 
NascentOxygen said:
Take another look at what is going on in this line.

Well if I have done part A correctly, my thinking was..

Looking at the bottom branch of part A alone, 18 and 54 were simply added because they're are in series, and then because 11 and 16 are in parallel I had to take the reciprocal of the reciprocals of 11 and 16 added together .

So what I did then for the top branch of part B (the bit you quoted). As 2 and 20 are in parallel, simply add them, and because 16 and 35 are in series, I took the reciprocal of the reciprocals of 16 and 35 added together. The same as above but in reverse.
 
FaraDazed said:
So what I did then for the top branch of part B (the bit you quoted). As 2 and 20 are in parallel, simply add them, and because 16 and 35 are in series, I took the reciprocal of the reciprocals of 16 and 35 added together. The same as above but in reverse.
Once you have added 2 and 20, you are faced with a string of 3 capacitances in series.
 
NascentOxygen said:
Once you have added 2 and 20, you are faced with a string of 3 capacitances in series.


Sorry I hope I am not being stupid/blind; just taking the top brance of part B, I can only see two, the 16 and 35 on either side of the 2 and 20 in parallel as indicated in the pic below.

http://oi57.tinypic.com/34g4v1h.jpg
 
What is the equivalent of 2 and 20 in parallel? Redraw the circuit with a single capacitor in place of those pair. What does it look like now?
 
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NascentOxygen said:
What is the equivalent of 2 and 20 in parallel? Redraw the circuit with a single capacitor in place of those pair. What does it look like now?

Ahhh right, I get it now, I think. Because once the the 20 and 2 are added together they become like as if it were just one there and then that would become the other one in series with the 16 and 35?

So it would be like.Top Branch:
[itex] (\frac{1}{16}+\frac{1}{2+20}+\frac{1}{35})^{-1} = 7.32 \mu F[/itex]

Bottom:
[itex] 37+11+43=91 \mu F[/itex]

Total:
[itex] 7.32+91=98.32 \mu F[/itex]
 
FaraDazed said:
Total:
[itex] 7.32+91=98.32 \mu F [/itex] ✔ [/size][/color]
Looking good.
 
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NascentOxygen said:
Looking good.

Thanks for your help. Do you know if my answer for the resistance one is correct?
 
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FaraDazed said:
Do you know if my answer for the resistance one is correct?
The method is right. I haven't checked your arithmetic.
 
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NascentOxygen said:
The method is right. I haven't checked your arithmetic.
OK thanks for your help.
 

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