How to calculate detector voltage from resistances?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the voltage across a detector in a circuit involving multiple resistances. The resistances are Ra, Rb, Rc, and Rd, with a battery supplying 10 volts. Participants are exploring the relationships between these resistances and the implications for voltage measurement.

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  • The original poster attempts to find the total resistance and current using series and parallel combinations of resistances. Some participants question the configuration of the resistances and whether they are in series or parallel. Others suggest calculating voltage drops across specific resistances and using voltage divider concepts.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the configuration of the resistances and the implications for voltage measurement. There is a recognition that the detector does not conduct current, leading to questions about how voltage can be measured in this context. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of voltage dividers and the need to calculate voltages at specific points in the circuit.

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There is some confusion regarding the arrangement of the resistances and the role of the detector. The discussion includes assumptions about the ideal behavior of the voltmeter and the nature of current flow in the circuit.

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Homework Statement


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The resistances:
Ra = 10 ohm
Rb = 10 ohm
Rc = 10 ohm
Rd = 8 ohm

Battery = 10 volts

Voltage across detector = ?

Homework Equations


V = IR
(series) R = R1 + R2 + ...
(parallel) 1 / R = (1/R1) + (1/R2) + ...

The Attempt at a Solution



So to get the voltage, I need to find the total resistance and current. I tried to simplify the problem by calculating Ra and Rb in parallel, Rc and Rd in parallel, then adding up these resistances in series. So I get the total resistance to be:

Ra + Rb = ##\frac{1}{\frac{1}{10} + \frac{1}{10}}= 5## ohm
Rc + Rd = ##\frac{1}{\frac{1}{8} + \frac{1}{10}} = \frac{40}{9}## ohm

Ra + Rb + Rc + Rd = ##5 + \frac{40}{9} = \frac{85}{9}## ohm

So to get the current, I use V/R = I
Since battery is 10V:

##\frac{10}{\frac{85}{9}} = \frac{18}{17}A##

So now I need to find the voltage through this resistance, but V = RI doesn't work because I just get back the total voltage from the battery. Not sure what else to do here
 
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Ra and Rb (and Rc and Rd) are not in parallel. The (ideal) voltage detector does not conduct current.
 
Is Ra and Rc (Rb and Rd) in series?
 
OK, so if I add up the series first, can I then calculate the remaining 2 resistances in parallel?
 
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OK, so if I add up the series first, can I then calculate the remaining 2 resistances in parallel?

You can. but it won't help. You have to calculate the voltage at the point between Ra and Rc, and at the point between Rb and Rd.

Ra and Rc form a voltage divider. You should know a formula for that . If yoiu don't, caculate the current throug Ra and Rc, and then the voltage drop across Rc.

Same thing for Rb and Rd
 
I'm not sure I understand the question. If there's no current through the detector, how can there be a voltage?
 
No current flows through an ideal voltmeter but it can still measure voltage. An ideal meter has very large resistance (aka infinite) so negligible current causes a voltage drop - if you insist on thinking about it that way.

I prefer to look at your diagram like this... You now have two Potential Divider chains. What is vd ?
 

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