Calculating Expectation Value of Particle in Square Potential Well

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The discussion revolves around calculating the expectation value of a particle in a square potential well, specifically focusing on the wavefunction behavior outside the well and the implications for probability calculations. The context involves quantum mechanics and potential energy concepts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the integration of the wavefunction to find the probability of the particle being outside the potential well, questioning the limits of integration and the nature of the wavefunction. There is confusion regarding the form of the wavefunction and the implications of the energy being less than the potential.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants clarifying their understanding of the wavefunction and the integration process. Some guidance has been offered regarding the limits of integration, but there is still uncertainty about the implications of the potential energy setup and the nature of the wavefunction.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating assumptions about the potential energy values and the implications for the wavefunction's form, particularly in relation to bound states and the definition of zero potential. There is a noted confusion about the real versus imaginary components of the wavevector k.

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I'm confused re a particle of energy E < V inside a square potential of width 'a' centered at x = 0 with depth V.

They give the wavefunction for outside the well as [tex]\Psi(x) = Ae^{k|x|}[/tex] for |x| > a/2

and [tex]k^2 = -\frac{2ME}{\hbar^2}[/tex] => [tex]k = i\frac{\sqrt{2ME}}{\hbar}[/tex] ?

I need the probability that the particle is outside the potential well. So I integrate [tex]\int{\Psi(x)\Psi^*(x)dx}[/tex] from a/2 to infinity if I take x to be positive and then multiply by 2 for symmetry?

But isn't [tex]\Psi(x)^*\Psi(x) = A[/tex]? So my integral is infinity but shouldn't it be 0?
 
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cscott said:
I'm confused re a particle of energy E < V inside a square potential of width 'a' centered at x = 0 with depth V.

They give the wavefunction for outside the well as [tex]\Psi(x) = Ae^{k|x|}[/tex] for |x| > a/2

and [tex]k^2 = -\frac{2ME}{\hbar^2}[/tex]

I need the probability that the particle is outside the potential well. So I integrate [tex]\int{\Psi(x)\Psi^*(x)dx}[/tex] from 0 to infinity if I take x to be positive and then multiply by 2 for symmetry?

But isn't [tex]\Psi(x)^*\Psi(x) = A[/tex]? So my integral is infinity but shouldn't it be 0?
you must integrate from a/2 to infinity, not from 0.

Because the exponential is real then Psi Psi^* does not give a constant (that only happens for imaginary exponentials)
 
Sorry I meant so say from a/2 to infinity.

But doesn't k have to have an i in it because k squared is negative?
 
cscott said:
Sorry I meant so say from a/2 to infinity.

But doesn't k have to have an i in it because k squared is negative?

I am a bit confused by your choice of zero for the potential. You are doing a bound state, right? If you set V =0 outside of the well, then it means E < 0 (but E > -V where I am assuming V is a positive number). Then k is real.
 

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