Calculating Final Velocities in a Head-On Collision | Physics Homework Solution

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The problem involves a head-on collision between two masses, one with mass m and initial velocity v0, and another with mass 2m initially at rest. The goal is to determine the final velocities of both masses as ratios to v0.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy equations. There is confusion regarding the correct application of these equations, particularly in the setup of the kinetic energy equation and the signs in the velocity expressions. Some participants suggest corrections to the equations being used.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively questioning each other's reasoning and calculations. Some have pointed out potential errors in the setup of equations, while others are exploring the implications of these corrections. There is recognition of the complexity of the problem, particularly in solving for the final velocities.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can use or the methods they can apply. There is an emphasis on deriving final velocities in terms of the initial velocity v0.

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Homework Statement


A mass m with initial velocity v0 collides head on with a mass 2m initially at rest. What is the final velocity of the smaller mass, as a ratio to v0?

What is the final velocity of the larger mass, as a ratio to v0?



Homework Equations



Pi=Pf

KE=.5mv^2

The Attempt at a Solution



for part a I am confused as to what I am doing wrong:

mvo=mv1+2mv2
it wants to find v1 in terms of vo so:

v2=.5(vo+v1)

then plug into KE equation:

vo2=v12+.25(v12+vo2)
and simplify to get

(3/4)vo2=(5/4)v12

then v1=(3/5)1/2vo
 
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kraigandrews said:
for part a I am confused as to what I am doing wrong:

mvo=mv1+2mv2
it wants to find v1 in terms of vo so:

v2=.5(vo+v1)
That + should be minus.


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hi kraigandrews! :smile:
kraigandrews said:
mvo=mv1+2mv2
it wants to find v1 in terms of vo so:

v2=.5(vo+v1)

then plug into KE equation:

vo2=v12+.25(v12+vo2)
and simplify to get

(3/4)vo2=(5/4)v12

then v1=(3/5)1/2vo

hmm …

i] v2=.5(vo minus v1)

ii] you need to put m or 2m in the KE equation

iii] (vo+v1)2 is not v12+vo2 :redface:
 
yeah wow that was a dumb mistake not foiling, for the KE part I just canceled the masses:

but now I am left with
(3/4)Vo^2=(5/4)V1^2-(1/2)Vo*V1
and I am not quite sure how to solve this for V1
 
erm :rolleyes: … it's a quadratic equation! :smile:

(and anyway, v0 = v1 is obviously going to be a solution, since that corresponds to the masses not colliding!)
 

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