Calculating Force and Acceleration in Circular Motion Problem

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The problem involves calculating gravitational forces and accelerations in the context of circular motion, specifically regarding the interactions between a stationary individual and the Sun. The original poster presents a scenario where John is at the same distance from the Sun as the Earth, seeking to determine the force exerted by the Sun on John, John's acceleration towards the Sun, and the Sun's acceleration towards John.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the gravitational force using Newton's law of universal gravitation and to find acceleration using circular motion formulas. There is a question regarding whether the same period should be used for calculating the Sun's acceleration.

Discussion Status

Some participants confirm the calculations provided by the original poster and suggest a relationship between force and acceleration that could simplify the process. There is an acknowledgment of the calculations yielding consistent results, but the discussion remains open regarding the method for determining the Sun's acceleration.

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The problem is framed within the constraints of a homework assignment, and specific values for mass and distance are provided. The discussion includes questions about the appropriateness of using the same period for different calculations.

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Homework Statement



If John was stationary in space at eh same distance fromo the sun as the Earth is, a.how much force would the sun be exeerting on John? b.what would be John's acceleration towards the sun? c.what would be the sun's acceleration toward John??

Homework Equations


Mass of John= 50kg
Mass of Sun = 2x1030kg
r=1.5x1011m
T=331536000s
Fg=G*Msun Mjohn/r2
a=4pi2r/T2
Fs=force of the sun
Fj=force of john
as=acceleration of sun
aj=acceleration of john

The Attempt at a Solution


a.
Fs=GMsMj/r2
Fs=(6.67X10-11)(2x1030)(50)/(1.5x1011)2
Fs= .2964444444 N

b. aj=4pi2r/T2
aj=4pi2(1.5x1011m)/(31536000s)2
aj= .0059497487m/s2

c. Would I use the same equation as b, with the same T? or is it a different T??

thank you for all helps and comments
 
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Hi phys1618,

phys1618 said:

The Attempt at a Solution


a.
Fs=GMsMj/r2
Fs=(6.67X10-11)(2x1030)(50)/(1.5x1011)2
Fs= .2964444444 N

b. aj=4pi2r/T2
aj=4pi2(1.5x1011m)/(31536000s)2
aj= .0059497487m/s2

This is right, but there is a more direct method that will also help you in part c. In part a you found the force; what is the relationship between force and acceleration? You should get the same answer.

Then for part c, do the same procedure to find the acceleration for the sun (which will of course be much smaller).
 
F=ma
yea, it did gave me the same answer as b
so for c. I
Fs=Msun*a of the sun
.2964444444 N=2x10^30kg* a
1.48 x 10^-31 m/s^2=a
right??

thank you for the help!
 
Sure, glad to help!
 

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