Calculating Frequency of Train Whistle for Approaching Passenger

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The discussion focuses on calculating the frequency of a train whistle as perceived by a passenger on another train, utilizing the Doppler effect. The initial calculation presented was incorrect due to a sign error in the formula. The correct approach involves using the formula fapproach = (v - vL) / (v + vs) * fs, where v is the speed of sound (345 m/s), vL is the speed of the listener (18 m/s), vs is the speed of the source (30 m/s), and fs is the source frequency (262 Hz). The accurate frequency heard by the passenger is approximately 298.54 Hz, reflecting the increase in frequency as the trains approach each other.

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A train is traveling at 30.0 m/s relative to the ground in still air. The frequency of the note emitted by the train whistle is 262 Hz.
a. What frequency (fapproach) is heard by a passenger on a train moving at a speed of 18.0 m/s relative to the ground in a direction opposite to the first train and approaching it?



a. fapproach = (v-vL)/(v+vs) * fs



f= [(345m/s-18m/s)/(345m/s+30m/s)]*(262 Hz)
= 228.46 Hz

Wrong
 
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Well, yeah! The frequency of the whistle of a train approaching you is higher, not lower. You have a sign error.
 
merlos said:
A train is traveling at 30.0 m/s relative to the ground in still air. The frequency of the note emitted by the train whistle is 262 Hz.
a. What frequency (fapproach) is heard by a passenger on a train moving at a speed of 18.0 m/s relative to the ground in a direction opposite to the first train and approaching it?
a. fapproach = (v-vL)/(v+vs) * fs
f= [(345m/s-18m/s)/(345m/s+30m/s)]*(262 Hz)
= 228.46 Hz

Wrong


Careful. There are two sets of relative motion here. The source relative to the air and the observer relative to the air. You need to do a doppler calculation for each. As Halls pointed out, the observed frequency should be higher.

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