Calculating Friction & Time for a Bullet Penetrating Rubber

In summary: Assuming the frictional force is constant, the magnitude of the average frictional force is ##F_{avg}=\frac{\Delta p}{\Delta t}##. The average time it takes for the bullet to penetrate the block of rubber is ##t_{avg}=\frac{F_{avg}}{a_{avg}}## seconds.
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Homework Statement
A 7.80 g bullet is initially moving at 500 m/s just before it penetrates a block of solid rubber to a depth of 4.50 cm.
(a)What is the magnitude of the average frictional force (in N) that is exerted on the bullet while it is moving through the block of solid rubber? Use work and energy considerations to obtain your answer.
(b)Assuming the frictional force is constant, how much time (in s) elapses between the moment the bullet enters the block of solid rubber and the moment it stops moving?
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A 7.80 g bullet is initially moving at 500 m/s just before it penetrates a block of solid rubber to a depth of 4.50 cm.
(a)What is the magnitude of the average frictional force (in N) that is exerted on the bullet while it is moving through the block of solid rubber? Use work and energy considerations to obtain your answer.
(b)Assuming the frictional force is constant, how much time (in s) elapses between the moment the bullet enters the block of solid rubber and the moment it stops moving?
 
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Hello @shin ,
:welcome: !​

Here at PF things don't go as you seem to expect: dump an exercise and get the answer.
Please read the PF guidelines and post your attempt.

Oh, and: does the rubber block stay in place or can it e.g. fly off because it's hanging from a wire ?
 
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shin said:
Homework Statement:: A 7.80 g bullet is initially moving at 500 m/s just before it penetrates a block of solid rubber to a depth of 4.50 cm.
(a)What is the magnitude of the average frictional force (in N) that is exerted on the bullet while it is moving through the block of solid rubber? Use work and energy considerations to obtain your answer.
(b)Assuming the frictional force is constant, how much time (in s) elapses between the moment the bullet enters the block of solid rubber and the moment it stops moving?
This is a distressingly frequent blunder by question setters who ought to know better.
Average force is ##F_{avg}=\frac{\Delta p}{\Delta t}##, the change in momentum divided by elapsed time. In vectors, ##\vec F_{avg}=\frac{\vec{\Delta p}}{\Delta t}##.
Note that this is consistent with acceleration and velocity. Cancelling mass out we get:
##a_{avg}=\frac{\Delta v}{\Delta t}##.
In general, this is not the same as ##\frac{\Delta E}{\Delta s}##, where E is energy and Δs is displacement in the direction of the force. They will be the same if the force is constant, but it cannot be written as a vector equation because energy is a scalar and you cannot divide by a vector.

Hence the correct wording of the question may be:
Assume the frictional force is constant during the penetration.
a) What is its magnitude?
b) How long does the penetration take?
 
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1. What factors affect the amount of friction when a bullet penetrates rubber?

The amount of friction when a bullet penetrates rubber is affected by several factors, including the speed of the bullet, the material and texture of the rubber, and the angle at which the bullet hits the rubber.

2. How can the coefficient of friction be calculated for a bullet penetrating rubber?

The coefficient of friction can be calculated by dividing the force required to move the bullet through the rubber by the weight of the bullet. This can be done experimentally by measuring the force and weight, or it can be estimated using known values for the materials and surface conditions.

3. Can the time it takes for a bullet to penetrate rubber be accurately predicted?

While the time it takes for a bullet to penetrate rubber can be estimated, it is difficult to accurately predict due to the many variables involved. The speed and angle of the bullet, as well as the properties of the rubber, all play a role in the time it takes for penetration to occur.

4. How does the density of the rubber affect the friction and time of penetration for a bullet?

The density of the rubber can affect the amount of friction and the time of penetration for a bullet. Generally, denser rubber will provide more resistance and result in a longer time of penetration compared to less dense rubber.

5. Are there any other factors that should be considered when calculating friction and time for a bullet penetrating rubber?

In addition to the factors mentioned above, other factors that should be considered include the temperature and humidity of the environment, the shape and size of the bullet, and any surface treatments or coatings on the rubber. These can all impact the amount of friction and time of penetration for a bullet.

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