How Do You Calculate the Force and Time to Stop a Bullet Using Energy and Work?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the force required to stop a bullet and the time it takes for the bullet to come to a stop after penetrating a tree trunk. The context is rooted in energy and work principles, specifically applying the kinetic energy-work theorem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of kinetic energy formulas and the work-energy theorem to find the force stopping the bullet. There are attempts to calculate energy and force, with some participants questioning the correctness of their calculations. Others explore the relationship between acceleration and time using kinematic equations.

Discussion Status

There are multiple calculations presented for the force, with some participants expressing confidence in their results. The discussion includes attempts to derive time based on constant acceleration, with some guidance offered regarding the use of Newton's laws. However, there is no explicit consensus on the methods used.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the assumption of constant frictional force and the implications of this assumption on the calculations. There is also mention of the need to compute frictional force, which remains a point of discussion.

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Homework Statement


A 5.00g bullet moving at 600.0 m/s penetrates a tree trunk to a depth of 4.00 cm.

A) Use work and energy considerations to find the magnitude of the force that stops the bullet.

B) Assuming that the frictional force is constant, determine how much time elapses between the moment the bullet enters the tree and the moment the bullet stops moving.


Homework Equations


Ek= 1/2mv^2
W=fdcos(0)


The Attempt at a Solution



I tried to do Ek=1/2mv^2
Ek= 1/2 x ( .005kg) x (600m/s)^2 but i think that's wrong
 
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Ek= 1/2 x ( .005kg) x (600m/s)^2 but i think that's wrong

This is how much energy the bullet intially has.

All this energy is transferred as the bullet travels through the tree a distance of 4cm.

So how can we solve for the magnitude of the force which stops the bullet?

HINT: Use kinetic energy-work theorem.
 
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with the formula Fd(cos0)= (1/2 mvf^2)-(1/2mvi^2) i got -900J/.04m and i got the answer 22500N horizontally
 
looks good to me
 
i got the answer 22500N horizontally

They are asking for the magnitude of the force so you don't have to indicate a direction ("horizontally" in your case).

22500N is good enough! Now try part B!
 
since the frictional force is constant, the acceleration would be constant, so

v²=u²+2as
0=600²+2a(0.04)
a=-360000/0.08 = -4.5x10^6

a=(v-u)/t
t=(v-u)/a
=0-600/(-4.5x10^6)
=0.133 ms
 
v²=u²+2as
0=600²+2a(0.04)
a=-360000/0.08 = -4.5x10^6

a=(v-u)/t
t=(v-u)/a
=0-600/(-4.5x10^6)
=0.133 ms

Looks good to me!
 
You can find the acceleration a by Newton's law: F=ma

Iono how you're trying to find it there...answer looks right though.
 
thank you!
 
  • #10
You can find the acceleration a by Newton's law: F=ma

How would you do that? You have no way of computing the frictional force.
 
  • #11
You just did in part A
...
 
  • #12
Matterwave said:
You just did in part A
...

Doh! Brainfart :)
 

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