Calculating Ice Cube Landing Points Using Galilean Relativity

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The discussion revolves around a problem in kinematics, specifically applying Galilean relativity to determine the landing points of an ice cube dropped from a moving train. The scenario involves two trains moving at different speeds and an observer at a station, all aligned at a specific moment when the ice cube is released from a height of 1.40m.

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Galilean transformations to find the landing point of the ice cube from different reference frames. Some participants question the need to calculate the time it takes for the ice cube to fall, considering the effects of gravity and the initial height. Others suggest using coordinate transformations to analyze the problem from the perspective of different observers.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of gravity and initial velocities in the calculations, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct method or final outcome yet.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to use Galilean relativity and the implications of initial velocities for the observers. There is uncertainty regarding the expectations for calculations and the specific formulas to apply for different observers.

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2 trains are traveling at constant speeds on 2 parralel straight line. The first A is traveling at 5m/s the second B is traveling at 2 m/s. An observer at the station observes both trains. At a given instant of time, a passenger in A, a passenger in B and the observer at the sation are all aligned along a line normal to the motion of the trains. At that point, a passenger in A drops an ice cube from his drink which he is holding at a height of 1.40m. Using Galilean relativity where will the ice cube land as far as each observer is concerned?

I worked out for A to be x' + u't' = 0 as u' = 0 as there is no horizontal velocity of ice cube relative to A.

Im not sure of the formula to work out B and for ground observer can someone help?
 
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any ideas would be useful, I am not sure whether I am expected to work out the time of how long it will take for the ice cube to land using the distance 1.4 m and gravity?
 
Yes, they expect you to work out the time using gravity and the initial height of the cube, then use Galilean coordinate transformations on this (you could also work out the problems with the cube having an initial velocity equal to the relative velocities, but it sounds like they want you to explicity start with a Galilean transformation, so that you get a feel for how to use Lorentz transformations later on).
 
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any ideas anyone?
 
is my method for the asnwer for observer A correct??
 

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