Calculating Induced EMF for Moving Loop in Uniform Magnetic Field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average induced electromotive force (emf) for a loop being removed from a uniform magnetic field. The loop has a radius of 12 cm and is situated in a magnetic field of 1.5 T, oriented in the positive z direction, while the loop lies in the horizontal xy-plane. Participants are exploring the implications of changing area and magnetic flux as the loop is removed from the field over a specified time interval.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are discussing the relationship between the magnetic field and the area of the loop, questioning how to express the rate of change of area as the loop is removed. Some suggest that the average emf can be derived from the change in area and magnetic flux, while others propose simplifying the formula for induced emf.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations of how to calculate the average induced emf being explored. Some participants have provided specific calculations and formulas, while others express uncertainty and seek confirmation from more experienced members.

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Participants are considering the implications of the loop's area changing from its maximum value to zero, and there is mention of the need to clarify whether to use average or instantaneous values in their calculations. The time interval for the change is specified, but there may be differing views on how to approach the problem mathematically.

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If we have a loop with radius 12 cm that lies in a uniform magnetic field of 1.5T.

The magnetic field is in the positive z direction and the loop lies in the horizontal xy-plane. Now if the loop is removed from the field in a time interval of 2.0x10^-3 s what will the average induced emf be.



Right now first I thaught it might be zero but then seeing as the b field will be constant and A will change.

therefore it has to be emf= - -b x dA/dt

but how can i describe the rate of change of A?


ps:am I even on the right track? =)
 
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If I understood well the magnetic field is perpendicular to the loop:
the A will decrease from it's maximum value (the area of the loop: 4,52 x 10^-2 m^2) to zero.
 
PPonte said:
If I understood well the magnetic field is perpendicular to the loop:
the A will decrease from it's maximum value (the area of the loop: 4,52 x 10^-2 m^2) to zero.

yeah so the average emf induced would be d(A/2)/dt ?
 
In my opinion, we could simplify the formula:
emf induced = B.A/dt

B= 1,5 T
A (of the loop) = 4,52 x 10^-2 m^2
dt = 2,0 x 10^-3 s
emf = 33,9 V

But wait for the experts, it's possible that I am mistaken.
 
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I thinks it is

[tex]\frac{\Delta \Phi_B}{\Delta t}[/tex]

since it asks average value not instantanious one, I think 33.912 V is a correct answer.
 
Psi-String said:
I thinks it is

[tex]\frac{\Delta \Phi_B}{\Delta t}[/tex]

since it asks average value not instantanious one, I think 33.912 V is a correct answer.

but surely the average A confined in the magentic field during dt must be half A.. therefore the average Induced emf must be -d(A/2)/dt

or?
 
It is not an average A but a variation of A.
Phi=B.A.costheta

and

efm = dPHi/dt

PS- Sorry, but I don't know to latex.
 
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