Calculating Inertia for a Rotating Disc with 16 Blades | Wk² = 120-188

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for a rotating disc with multiple blades attached. Participants explore different methods and calculations related to the inertia of the disc and the blades, including considerations of weight, radius, and the application of formulas. The scope includes theoretical calculations and potential discrepancies in results.

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  • One participant presents initial calculations yielding values of 120Wk² and 188Wk² for the moment of inertia but expresses doubt about their accuracy.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the calculations used to arrive at these numbers.
  • A subsequent post details a calculation method involving the weight of the disc and the concept of gyro radius, resulting in a total wk² value of 106.625.
  • Alternative calculations are presented, treating the disc as a solid mass, yielding a different wk² value of 114.8.
  • A later reply challenges the initial calculations, providing a formula for the mass moment of inertia of a circular disk and suggesting that the moment of inertia for the blades should be estimated separately using the parallel axis theorem.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct calculations or methods to apply, with multiple competing views and calculations presented throughout the discussion.

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Some calculations depend on assumptions about the shape and distribution of mass in the blades, and there are unresolved details regarding the application of the parallel axis theorem for the blades.

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I have been scratching my head for a few hours now. Problem is I don't believe my calculations one bit haha.

I have a circlular rotating disc mass (approx 80Lbs) radius of 13"

I have 16 Blades evenly spaced on this mass(approx weight of 3.2Lbs/each) Inside radius is 13" outside radius is 21"

I have came up with a number of 120Wk² and a number of 188Wk²

Someone save me from pulling my hair out lol

Thanks in advance
 
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How did you come up with these numbers? What calculations did you do?
 
Thanks for response.

26" dia. cylinder
weight = 80Lbs
Radius = 13.3462

wk² = (Weight)(Gyro Radius)

Gyro Radius = 13.3462/12 = 1.11218/2 = 0.55609/2 = 0.8341 + 0.55609 = 0.4170

wk² = (80)(0.4170)
wk² = 33.365

Blades
weight = 3.2Lbs
In/out Radius = 13.3462/inner radius -- 21/outside radius

wk² = 3.2(1.1121+1.75)/2
wk² = 73.26

sum of inertia

Total wk² value = 106.625

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Other Calculation

Calculating this as a solid mass

Weight = 131.2Lbs
Radius = 21" / 12 = 1.75'

wk² = (0.5)(131.2)(1.75)
wk² = 114.8

Which one should apply?
 
Your calculations appear to be incorrect.

For instance, take the 80-lb. disk, radius 13" (round numbers for convenience).

The mass moment of inertia of a circular disk is (1/2)mR^2
For the disk, R = 13/12 = 1.0833 ft. and m = W/g = 80/32.2 = 2.48 slugs

MOI = 0.5 * 2.48 * 1.0833^2 = 1.458 slug-ft^2

The moment of inertia is also equal to the mass * gyradius^2, or MOI = mass * k^2, where k = gyradius

For the disk, k = SQRT (1.458 / 2.48) = 0.767 ft = 9.2 in.

To add the blades to the disk, you would need to estimate the MOI of a single blade and then use the parallel axis theorem to find the MOI of the disk and blades. The MOI of a blade is going to depend on the size and shape of the blade.
 

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