Calculating Instantaneous Velocity in Calculus

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The discussion focuses on calculating the average and instantaneous velocity of a ball thrown into the air, described by the height function y = 49t - 10t^2. For part A, participants suggest using the average rate of change formula rather than integration to find average velocity over small time intervals. For part B, the conversation shifts to the need for understanding the derivative to estimate instantaneous velocity, with a key formula provided for finding derivatives at a point. The importance of using the correct approach to differentiate between average and instantaneous velocity is emphasized. Overall, the thread highlights common misconceptions and clarifies the proper methods for solving the problem.
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Homework Statement



A ball is thrown into the air a velocity of 49 ft/s. Its height in feet after t seconds is given by y=49t-10t^2.

A. Find the average velocity for the time period beginning when t=3 and lasting
0.01 s:
0.005 s:

B. Estimate the instantaneous velocity when t=3.

Homework Equations



Integrals

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not exactly sure if I'm approaching this problem at the right angle...

A) 0.01s

1/ [(3.01) -3] ∫ from 3 to 3.01 49t-10t^2 dx

[1/0.01] ∫ from 3 to 3.01 49t-10t^2 dx

[1/0.01] ∫ from 3 to 3.01 (49t^2)/2 - (10t^3)/3 <------ integrated

[1/0.01] [(49(3.01)^2)/2 - (10(3.01)^3)/3] - [1/0.01] [ 49(3)^2)/2 - (10(3)^3)/3

substitution

Same steps for 0.005s

B) I'm not sure how to approach this problem.

Please help me understand the problem. Thank you very much. :)
 
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silverbell said:
I'm not exactly sure if I'm approaching this problem at the right angle...
No, you don't want to take an integral. You're given a position function, and integrating it doesn't give you the velocity function. What you want to do is to use the average rate of change formula (from x = a to x = b):
\frac{f(b) - f(a)}{b - a}
So, given the position function s(t) = -10t2 + 49t, evaluate
\frac{s(3.01) - s(3)}{3.01 - 3}

silverbell said:
B) I'm not sure how to approach this problem.
Do you know the formula for finding a derivative at a point (I'm talking about the one with the limit)?
 
Do you know the formula for finding a derivative at a point (I'm talking about the one with the limit)?

Actually, I don't know the formula for finding a derivative at a point.
 
silverbell said:
Actually, I don't know the formula for finding a derivative at a point.
Sure you do:
f&#039;(a) = \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{f(a + h) - f(a)}{h}
 
eumyang said:
Sure you do:
f&#039;(a) = \lim_{h \rightarrow 0} \frac{f(a + h) - f(a)}{h}

Thanks. :D
 
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