Calculating Kinetic Energy with Rotational Motion

In summary: If so, how much? If not, then what's the angular velocity of the system after the catch?No, there is no linear motion after the catch.
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Homework Statement


A student sits at rest on a piano stool that can rotate without friction. The moment of inertia of the student-stool system is 3.6 kg·m2. A second student tosses a 1.7 kg mass with a speed of 3.0 m/s to the student on the stool, who catches it at a distance of 0.38 m from the axis of rotation. The final angular speed is 0.504 rad/s.
(a) Does the kinetic energy of the mass-student-stool system increase, decrease, or stay the same as the mass is caught?

(b) Calculate the initial and final kinetic energy of the system.


Homework Equations


W=Kf-Ki
ω=v/r

The Attempt at a Solution



All I've gotten so far is Ki=3.6+.5*1.7*3^2=11.25 J. I'm really stuck, please help!
 
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Welcome to PF embudini!

How does the moment of inertia of the system change after the person on the stool catches the mass?

How does the rotational kinetic energy of a system depend on its moment of inertia and on its angular velocity ω?
 
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The moment of inertia would increase because the system has a greater mass.

The kinetic energy is .5mv^2+.5Iω^2, the combination of its linear and rotational kinetic energies. But I don't know what to do this these equations in this scenario. I have a lot of problems similar in concept to this one, but I just don't understand how to solve for them!
 
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embudini said:
The moment of inertia would increase because the system has a greater mass.

Yes, but how, specifically does it change? Hint: ignoring the mass of the person's arm, you can think of the mass that gets caught as being a point mass that is moving in a circle around the centre of rotation whose radius is the arm length. What is the moment of inertia of such a system? How does it combine with the moment of inertia of the person + stool?

embudini said:
The kinetic energy is .5mv^2+.5Iω^2, the combination of its linear and rotational kinetic energies. But I don't know what to do this these equations in this scenario. I have a lot of problems similar in concept to this one, but I just don't understand how to solve for them!

Yes, but after the catch happens, is there linear motion any longer?
 
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To calculate the kinetic energy of the system, we can use the equation K = 1/2Iω^2, where I is the moment of inertia and ω is the angular velocity.

(a) In this scenario, the kinetic energy of the system will increase as the mass is caught. This is because the mass adds to the moment of inertia of the system, and the final angular velocity is greater than the initial angular velocity.

(b) To calculate the initial kinetic energy, we can use the given information to find the initial angular velocity, using the equation ω = v/r. Plugging in the values, we get ω = 3.0/0.38 = 7.89 rad/s. Therefore, the initial kinetic energy is K = 1/2(3.6)(7.89^2) = 140.6 J.

To calculate the final kinetic energy, we can use the given final angular velocity of 0.504 rad/s. Plugging this into the equation, we get K = 1/2(3.6)(0.504^2) = 0.455 J.

Therefore, the initial kinetic energy is 140.6 J and the final kinetic energy is 0.455 J. We can see that the kinetic energy has decreased as the mass was caught, because some of the initial kinetic energy was converted into rotational kinetic energy.
 

1. What is the formula for calculating kinetic energy with rotational motion?

The formula for calculating kinetic energy with rotational motion is K = 1/2 * I * ω^2, where K is kinetic energy, I is the moment of inertia, and ω is the angular velocity.

2. How is moment of inertia calculated?

Moment of inertia is calculated by summing the products of each particle's mass and the square of its distance from the axis of rotation. This can also be expressed as I = ∫r^2 dm, where r is the distance from the axis of rotation and dm is the mass element.

3. Can kinetic energy with rotational motion be negative?

No, kinetic energy with rotational motion cannot be negative. It is always a positive value, representing the energy of an object's rotation.

4. How does rotational kinetic energy relate to linear kinetic energy?

Rotational kinetic energy and linear kinetic energy are both forms of energy that an object possesses due to its motion. However, rotational kinetic energy is specific to an object's rotation around an axis, while linear kinetic energy is specific to its motion in a straight line.

5. What are the units for rotational kinetic energy?

The units for rotational kinetic energy are Joules (J), which is the same as the units for linear kinetic energy. This is because both forms of energy are measured in terms of mass and velocity squared.

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