Calculating Magnetic Flux Change in Moving Coil Experiment

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The discussion focuses on calculating the change in magnetic flux (ΔΦ) for a coil with a cross-sectional area of 2.4 m², a magnetic flux density of 0.29 T, and one turn, when moved through an angle of 1 degree. The formula used is ΔΦ = ΔBAcosθ, with variations in the angle leading to different interpretations of the calculation. The conversation highlights the importance of averaging the cosine function for rigorous calculations, particularly when transitioning from 0 to 90 degrees, which introduces the factor of 1/sqrt(2) in the average electromotive force (emf) calculation.

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Homework Statement


We have a coil with cross-sectional area of 2.4m^2.
Magnetic flux density is of 0.29T
Number of turns are 1.

Initially the coil is parallel to magnetic field lines. (Coil's normal vector is perpendicular to field vector)

Calculate the change in magnetic flux when coil is moved through an angle of 1 degrees

Homework Equations


Δ[/B]Φ = ΔBAcosθ

The Attempt at a Solution


My attempt
ΔΦ = ΔBAcosθ
ΔΦ = BA Δcosθ
ΔΦ = BA (cos 89 - cos 90)
Which leads to a correct answer

Examiner attempt
ΔΦ = ΔBAcosθ
ΔΦ = BA Δcosθ
ΔΦ = BA cos (90-1) How do they do this?
Which leads to a correct answer

Another question inquired me to calculate the change of flux when the change in θ is from 0 to 90. I used the normal way of multiplying BA by (cos 90 - cos 0). However, the examiner stated that this is simplified treatment, a rigorous method would involve averaging of cos θ leading to a factor of 1/sqrt2.
How is this factor achieved? I tried to calculate the mean value of cos θ using integration but the answer was different.
 
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Faiq said:
ΔΦ = BA (cos 89 - cos 90)
Which leads to a correct answer
Faiq said:
ΔΦ = BA cos (90-1) How do they do this?
Which leads to a correct answer
To me both answers look the same: cos(89) because of the value of cos(90) :smile: You sure your calculator is on degrees and not on radians ?
And how do they do it ? Probably they start with making a (top view) sketch !

Faiq said:
Another question inquired me to calculate the change of flux when the change in θ is from 0 to 90. I used the normal way of multiplying BA by (cos 90 - cos 0). However, the examiner stated that this is simplified treatment, a rigorous method would involve averaging of cos θ leading to a factor of 1/sqrt2.
There must be a misunderstanding there. Do you have the full litteral text of thte question that was asked you ?
 
No I meant, if I wanted to calculate the change in a value of a function at the interval ##a## and ##b##, I will calculate ##f(b)-f(a) \neq f(b-a)##. But in the provided example taking ##cos(90-1)## gave the answer. How was that possible?
 

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In the 89 degree case the change in flux was asked for. That is a simple difference.
In exercise 6 they explicitly ask for an average emf. Do you have a relationship (formula, expression) that links ##\Phi## to the emf ?
 
BvU said:
In the 89 degree case the change in flux was asked for. That is a simple difference.
In exercise 6 they explicitly ask for an average emf. Do you have a relationship (formula, expression) that links ##\Phi## to the emf ?
##Φ=\frac{-dV}{dt}=\frac{BANcos\theta}{\delta t} ##
 
Faiq said:
##Φ=\frac{-dV}{dt}=\frac{BANcos\theta}{\delta t} ##
Are you sure?
As per Faraday's law, what is the derivative of what?
 
Oh sorry my bad
##V=N\frac{-dΦ}{dt}=\frac{\delta BANcos\theta}{\delta t} ##[/QUOTE]
 
Don't know why you switch to a partial derivative ?
Write ##\theta## as a function of ##t## and you can take the average of V for a quarter turn in 0.14 s: $$<V> = {1\over 0.14}\int_0^{0.14 s} V\,dt$$
 
And how do I write theta as a function of t?
I tried 0.14/90 t = theta but ended up getting the wrong answer
 
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You may assume it turns with a constant angular speed from ##\pi\over4## to ##0## in 0.14 seconds

[edit] sorry,: yes, that should be ##\pi\over 2##.

Check your dimensions: on the left you have s2/degree and on the right an angle in degrees!
 
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BvU said:
You may assume it turns with a constant angular speed from ##\pi\over4## to ##0## in 0.14 seconds

Check your dimensions: on the left you have s2/degree and on the right an angle in degrees!
Don't you mean pi/2? The rotation is of 0 to 90 degrees.

Is this correct?
$$ <V> = \frac{0.0123}{0.14}\int^{0.14}_0 \cos{\frac{90}{0.14}t}~ dt $$
 
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