Calculating Mars' Orbital Period in Earth Years

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the orbital period of Mars in Earth years, given that Mars orbits the sun at 1.52 times Earth's orbital radius. The context is centered around orbital mechanics and the application of Kepler's Laws.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the equation for centripetal force and questions whether there is a specific equation for orbital periods. Some participants suggest using Kepler's Laws, specifically the harmonic law equation, to relate the periods and semi-major axes of the orbits.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different approaches to the problem, with some suggesting specific formulas while others clarify the definitions of terms involved. There is a recognition that using the correct constants for Earth’s period is important, and guidance has been offered regarding maintaining variables in the final expression.

Contextual Notes

There is a discussion about which constant to use for Earth's period, whether it should be the period of rotation or the period of orbit around the sun, indicating some uncertainty in the setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement


Mars orbits the sun at 1.52 Earth's orbital radius. What is the period of Mars in Earth years?


Homework Equations


ΣFc = mac


The Attempt at a Solution


I am unsure how to do this problem as this is the first "orbital period" question that I have encountered. Do I use the equation ΣFc = mac to solve this question, or is there another equation specifically for orbital periods that I don't know about?

because if I go the ΣFc = mac route I get:

ΣFc = mac
Fg = m4(pie)^2r/T^2
GMem/r^2 = m4(pie)^2(1.52)r/T^2
GMe/r^2 = 4(pie)^2(1.52)r/T^2
(GMe)(T^2) = 4(pie)^2(1.52)r^3
T = √4(pie)^2(1.52)r^3/GMe

This is my first orbital period question so I was just wondering would this be the correct way to solve it?
 
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fluidistic said:
Hi Inertialforce,
Are you familiar with Kepler's Laws? Check out the third on this page : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kepler's_law.

So I should use the harmonic's law equation for this question?
 
I think you can use the formula \frac{T_{\text {Earth}}}{a_{\text {Earth}}}=\frac{T_{\text {Mars}}}{a_{\text {Mars}}} where T is the period and a is the semimajor axis of the orbit. I think that in your case you can consider a as being the orbital radius.
 
fluidistic said:
I think you can use the formula \frac{T_{\text {Earth}}}{a_{\text {Earth}}}=\frac{T_{\text {Mars}}}{a_{\text {Mars}}} where T is the period and a is the semimajor axis of the orbit. I think that in your case you can consider a as being the orbital radius.

Oh okay, that makes this question so much easier :) thanks a lot for the help.

Oh and by the way for Tearth (the period), do I use the constant given for period of rotation given or do I use the constant given for period of orbit around the sun (both found on the Chart titled "Fundamental Constants and Physical Data")? I use the constant for period of orbit around the sun right?
 
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Inertialforce said:
Oh okay, that makes this question so much easier :) thanks a lot for the help.

Oh and by the way for Tearth (the period), do I use the constant given for period of rotation given or do I use the constant given for period of orbit around the sun (both found on the Chart titled "Fundamental Constants and Physical Data")? I use the constant for period of orbit around the sun right?
You're welcome!
For T_{\text {Earth}} I'd keep it like that. (I wouldn't plug any number instead of it). This way you will get T_{\text {Mars}} in term of T_{\text {Earth}} as they are asking you.
 

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