Calculating Max Compression of Massless Hookslaw Spring

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The problem involves a massless Hooke's law spring with an unstretched length, which is compressed when a mass is placed on it and subsequently dropped from a height. The goal is to determine the length of the spring at maximum compression using energy methods.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of energy conservation principles, with one attempting to derive a relationship involving the spring constant. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of analytical solutions and the relevance of the spring constant in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the equations involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the formulation of the spring constant, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or solution at this stage.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the awkward wording of the question and the need to clarify the role of the spring constant in the calculations. There is also mention of multiple analytical solutions, with a focus on identifying the physically meaningful one.

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Homework Statement



A massless hooksw law spring has a unstretched length of L, when a mass m is ploaced on it, and slowly lowered until the mass is at rest, the spring is queezed to a length of x. the mass is then dropped on the spring from a height of h, use energ methods

what is the length of the spring at maximum compression as a result of the mass dropping on it

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The Attempt at a Solution



mgh = -mgs + .5ks2

s = -mg + or -(((mg)2 - 4(.5k)(mgh))/k).5

if this is correct
 

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The question is worded aquardly, but I think you're on the right path with your firse equation. Now you need to write the spring constant k in terms of other parameters you have in your problem.

Also, you get two anilytical solutions. Can you think which sollution is correct? What does your non-physical solution correspond do?
 
what would be the benefit from solving for the spring constant

it asks for the length of the spring at compression s
 
joemama69 said:
what would be the benefit from solving for the spring constant

That way the spring constant is expressed in terms of other known parameters.
 
k = (2mgs - 2mgh)s2 = 2mg(s-h)/s2

i still don't understand how that helps, what would i use it for now
 

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