Calculating Minimum Speed for Ballistic Pendulum with Attached Mass

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The discussion focuses on calculating the minimum speed of a wad of putty required to raise a uniform stick to a horizontal position after a collision. The stick, measuring 1 meter in length and weighing 249 grams, is pivoted at the top, while the putty, weighing 29 grams, strikes it at 0.75 meters from the pivot. The solution involves applying conservation of angular momentum and energy principles, ultimately leading to the formula for the minimum speed of the putty, which was incorrectly calculated as 33.39 m/s. The correct approach requires careful consideration of the center of mass and the moment of inertia of the system.

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Homework Statement



A uniform stick d = 1 m long with a total mass of 249 g is suspended vertically from a frictionless pivot at its top end. A wad of putty of mass 29 g is moving horizontally with speed v. It strikes and sticks to the stick at a distance 0.75 m from the pivot.

What is the minimum speed of the putty such that the stick, with the putty stuck to it, will rise to the horizontal position?

Homework Equations


L=m*v*r
L=I*w
.5*I*w^2=m*g*h

The Attempt at a Solution


Conservation of momentum applies so first I have the angular momentum of just the putty with respect to the axis of the rod.
L=m*v*r
then just after the collision the rod has a angular momentum of
L=I*w
this gives me m*v*r/I=w which I use in a bit
The I = (1/3)M*d^2+m*r^2
Next, after the collision i use conservation of energy.
.5*I*w^2=(M+m)*g*h
h=cm=(M*d+m*r)/(M+m)
solving the above for w i get sqrt((2*g(M*d+m*r)/I)
now back to w=m*v*r/I gets me I/(m*r)*sqrt((2*g(M*d+m*r)/I) = v
this gets me 33.39 m/s which is wrong.
I tried without the cm stuff and just had h= 1 but that gets just about the same answer just a littler higher and also wrong.
 
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The center of mass of the stick is at d/2, not d. :smile:
 
argh why is it always something so simple.

thanks for the help though.
 

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